The Sens should identify their 7-3-1 and spend the next two seasons either building that up or trading all pieces that don’t meet that protection or are expansion except away for picks
Rumor: Trade Rumors/Proposals 2018-2019 (Part 19)
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Samboni
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There have been numerous trade scenarios put forward on this thread that make absolute perfect sense but never materialize. I have no confidence in GMPD’s ability to make a decent trade. He is not a wheeler-dealer guy. His definition to be aggressive is to overpay! Nothing has happened since the end of last season for me to get excited about 
You know, a bit of me feels depressed to see Montreal try and fail at the offer sheet route, especially with Point allegedly turning down their offer. If a super wealthy team like Montreal who are in a world class city can't attract free agents with supposedly inflated contract offers then what hope in hell do we have of ever getting anyone of note to sign here?
Melnyk will not own this team forever. There will come a day where we have a newer, wealthier owner. And yet the sad reality is it probably won't change much except for our capacity to sign our own players.
Melnyk will not own this team forever. There will come a day where we have a newer, wealthier owner. And yet the sad reality is it probably won't change much except for our capacity to sign our own players.
"Except our capacity to sign our own players"
Wow... I don't think you understand that this is the most important factor league-wide. If you're able to sign your own players when you need to, it ensures the long term success of your franchise since you retain the asset and can trade the player if ever you need to make cap space. Free agent signings are rarely ever worth it unless we're talking about elite players like Tavares, for example. 90% of the time, players that make it to free agency are players that will get overpaid and teams decide to let them go. Look at the Lucic, Ladd, Eriksson, Backes, Sekera, Clarkson, and the list goee on forever of mistakes made on July 1rst. It's a very well known fact across the league that deals given on July 1rst or in free agency often turn terrible. As a Sens fan, this is something I have accepted a very long time ago, we do not attract guys through FA and that is a GOOD THING. One thing to consider is also that winning attracts free agents. Players want to win the cup, that's the main goal of moat hockey players. If the Sens win and become one of the best teams in the league they will be able to attract players. Not all of them, but some at least.
Our drafting is good enough that we can acquire signed players through trade if we need to, and our drafting is good enough that if we were able to retain our own players we'd be a very very good team. Melnyk is a cancer to the NHL, he is a cancer to the city of Ottawa, he is a cancer to the Ottawa Senators.
As for offer sheets, it has nothing to do with Montreal. In fact it's extremely surprising that Aho even signed the offer sheet to begin with, IMO that's a win for Montreal. Players do not sign offer sheets 99% of the time unless contract negotiations with their own team are going very poorly. The NHL is a league of principle and respect. Typically players do not want to throw under the bus their team/teammates, and the organization that spent years and years helping them reach the NHL and helped them become the players that they are today. It's the main reason why NHL players do not sign offer sheets to begin with, it's not surprising at all that Point does not want to sign an offer sheet and that's not only with Montreal, that's with the entire league. Point is playing on the best team in the league in one of the most attractive destinations for players, why would he leave that? Tampa is a lot more attractive than Montreal, and again were talking about a player being loyal to the team that spent countless hours and money helping them becoming who they are today. Tampa has one of the best management group in the league as well, they'll retain Point as they should. The NHL created the RFA period in order to help smaller markets keep the players that they drafted and developed until they are 27, the fact that Montreal is failing at the offer sheet game is actually a great indicator that the goal of the NHL of helping markets like Ottawa is clearly working. Teams are able to retain their RFAs. Montreal didn't offer enough for Aho either, it was clear that Carolina would match that offer. Like Waddell said, very surprising they didn't offer more than that, had they made a legitimate offer they could've made Carolina think twice but it wasn't close.
The problem in Ottawa is not that we cant attract UFAs, it never was, it's that we can't retain our own talent. See Chara, Hossa, Alfredsson, Karlsson, Stone, Duchene/Zibanejad, Dzingel. That list contains arguably the 5 best players to ever put the Sens logo on. All of them but 1(Chara) were traded or let go because of money. No succesful team has ever been built with UFAs in the salary cap era because teams in the league retain their best players. Ottawa being the exception here.
A small market team like Ottawa needs the following things:
1- Spend smart (No high profile UFAs)
2- Great drafting
3- Retain elite players you drafted
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The key reasons are: budget (due to small Canadian market revenues), tax rates and climate.
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Little but disapointed the Sens couldn't top the Sabres on their Johansson offer. Not sure it would have mattered to him, but personally I would have been comfortable with him for 5.5/6 million on that term.
I guess it wasn't in the cards with Boedkker clogging up a roster spot (and $3 million in salary), but he'd probably be the teams best forward this season. Could have been a good vet for this season and we'd be looking at getting at least a 2nd back next year.
Not always as simple as this, but Boedkker + Smith out and Johansson + Ennis in makes us a much better team (at roughly the same hit)
I guess it wasn't in the cards with Boedkker clogging up a roster spot (and $3 million in salary), but he'd probably be the teams best forward this season. Could have been a good vet for this season and we'd be looking at getting at least a 2nd back next year.
Not always as simple as this, but Boedkker + Smith out and Johansson + Ennis in makes us a much better team (at roughly the same hit)
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Careful. We want to add character, and we want to insulated the kids from the pressure of losses and blame.
We do NOT really want to get any better. Unless it’s our kids breaking out, we really need to keep on pretending to try to be competitive, while actually looking to arrive at the bottom of the league again.
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Think about it this way...why are Methot, Kelly, and Winchester here right now? These guys could likely get off-ice jobs with most NHL teams. They could live anywhere in North America.
Ottawa does have some good things to offer. If we do get new ownership (whenever), and starts to turn the organization around and become respectable again, we will have a chance to be competitive. Yeah, we'll never be New York City in terms of excitement, and we'll never have Florida-level taxes or Cali weather. But it's still a great city and place to live and raise a family.
Saved money not signing Duchene or Stone to the “fair offers”
Saved money not bringing in President of Hockey
Saved money hiring a nobody coach
Saved money by trading a pick so the Leafs could pick up bonuses (I noticed Hainsey got no signing bonus cause Sens have no money on hand)
Other then bobby Ryan 2,0 the Sens have no other money tied to bonuses
But the Sens are going to match Chabot lol
Saved money not bringing in President of Hockey
Saved money hiring a nobody coach
Saved money by trading a pick so the Leafs could pick up bonuses (I noticed Hainsey got no signing bonus cause Sens have no money on hand)
Other then bobby Ryan 2,0 the Sens have no other money tied to bonuses
But the Sens are going to match Chabot lol
First of all, the single most important factor to team success, league-wide, is drafting and developing talent. I'd say it accounts for at least 50%. Then, 25% can be allocated to signing your own players to good contracts. And finally, 25% of your recipe for success hinges on the ability to sign good free agents or to trade for expensive, high performance players.
There probably hasn't been a single Stanley Cup winner in the last 10+ years who didn't have at least one high impact player (with a fairly high salary to match) who was acquired as a free agent or in a trade.
Also, don't pretend that winning and having really good talent on the roster would be enough for Ottawa to attract free agents. When Ottawa was winning President's Trophies and had the likes of Spezza, Heatley and Alfredsson I didn't see a queue of high end free agents wanting to come play here. When there was a huge hole on the pairing with Karlsson, I didn't see defensemen lining up to come to Ottawa to play with a Norris trophy winning defenseman who averaged a point per game.
The team signed Gonchar who was coming off a 62-11-49-50 season to help mentor EK ... but that was when the team was not broke
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We signed Hasek, arguably the greatest goalie of all time....
I would sign Colin White to 6x8 right now and lock his ass up if he was willing!
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... And literally no one else in the league was willing to sign him to be a starting goalie...
Signed as a 36 year old and were the only team willing to give him a third year on his contract. The 2 names mentioned so far as great free agent signings were both end-of-their-career type guys who we had to overpay (Gonchar) or had no other options (Hasek).
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Interesting discussion on the D side then. Chabot, Brannstrom and Wolanin. Who else needs protection? Jaros, JBD ? Boro et al can go
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