Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread Part XI

[Fazkovsky]

To Columbus: Charles Hudon
To MTL: Anthony Duclair

i wouldnt mind

or Hudon + second for Bjorkstrand

 

[jaffy27]

To MTL: Bobrovsky and Panarin (contingent on extensions signed)
To Columbus: Carey Price

Could Columbus get more than that?

Price veto’s the trade as his contract stipulates he can so

 

[Runner77]

Price veto’s the trade as his contract stipulates he can so

That's why they're fake trades.

 

[jaffy27]

Carey's actually not much of a big city guy.

Price and a 2nd to Vancouver
Oluevi/Virtanen and a 3rd to Columbus
Brobrovski and Panarin to Montreal
Ikonen to Columbus

Condition that both players sign in Montreal

99.99% this don’t happen, it’s just armchair GMing

 

[Scriptor]

That would mean you'd have to give another piece that stings more than Drouin.

OTT owner is cheap. Futures and youth for Duchene would do it. A 2nd, 4th and 5th rounder, plus Lehkonen for a re-signed Duchene is what I'd consider. We have an extra 2nd, 4th and 5th. OTT lost its first rounder to COL.

In the end, Poehling could become a LW and would bring more offense to the table than Lehkonen, IMO, with just as much or better D.

Domi- Duchene - Drouin
Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Poehling - Kotkaniemi - Suzuki
Byron - Evans - Shaw

Or, it could also be Danault + a 2nd rounder for a signed Duchene:

Domi - Duchene - Drouin
Tatar - Kotkaniemi - Gallagher
Byron/Lehkonen - Poehling - Suzuki
Lehkonen/Byron - Evans - Shaw

 

[26Mats]

Price and a 2nd to Vancouver
Oluevi/Virtanen and a 3rd to Columbus
Brobrovski and Panarin to Montreal
Ikonen to Columbus

Condition that both players sign in Montreal

99.99% this don’t happen, it’s just armchair GMing

99% of trades we post won't happen.

 

[26Mats]

Who would say no to a similar goalie to Price AND an elite first line winger ?

Bergevin. He loves Price.

 

[Mrb1p]

Bergevin. He loves Price.

He loves Price or he realize he's the only reason he still has a job ?

 

[Mrb1p]

Price and a 2nd to Vancouver
Oluevi/Virtanen and a 3rd to Columbus
Brobrovski and Panarin to Montreal
Ikonen to Columbus

Condition that both players sign in Montreal

99.99% this don’t happen, it’s just armchair GMing

The Jackets give up a top 5 winger in the game and the best/2nd best goalie in the game for Ikonen and Juolevi ?

 

[nhlfan9191]

Price and a 2nd to Vancouver
Oluevi/Virtanen and a 3rd to Columbus
Brobrovski and Panarin to Montreal
Ikonen to Columbus

Condition that both players sign in Montreal

99.99% this don’t happen, it’s just armchair GMing

I give you props for creativity but Columbus is getting screwed here pretty hard.

 

[Runner77]

OTT owner is cheap. Futures and youth for Duchene would do it....

"So neglect becomes our ally." - Count of Monte Cristo

This is exactly why a negotiating approach with one team needs to be specific to that team's tendencies and weaknesses. It's the lethal combo of the owner being a spendthrift and his GM not able to maximize on his prime assets. Heck, why the hell did they wait until the week before the deadline to attempt to unload Duchene and Stone?

 

[Runner77]

I give you props for creativity but Columbus is getting screwed here pretty hard.

Jaffy approved.

 

[26Mats]

He loves Price or he realize he's the only reason he still has a job ?

one and the same - and, he thinks by keeping Price, he'll continue to have a job.

 

[Runner77]

Is Pat Hickey spitballing or does he know something?



At 4:20:

"I think the one player that could get you something in return ... would be Nick Suzuki. I think that they've identified the fact that he's not what they thought they had. It's extremely difficult for the GM to admit that he made a big mistake after identifying this guy as a no. 1 guy."

 

[1909]

To Columbus: Charles Hudon
To MTL: Anthony Duclair

CJ's head would explode if he would had Drouin and Duclair on his team. Two immature primadonas.

 

[26Mats]

CJ's head would explode if he would had Drouin and Duclair on his team. Two immature primadonas.

I wanted to sign Duclair this summer, giving him 1 or 1.5 million on a 2 year deal - to play in Laval for a year under Bouchard the first year. And then, if his game has been rounded out, bring him up the 2nd year.

 

[1909]

I wanted to sign Duclair this summer, giving him 1 or 1.5 million on a 2 year deal - to play in Laval for a year under Bouchard the first year. And then, if his game has been rounded out, bring him up the 2nd year.

Duclair possibly did not want a two-way deal.

 

[Mrb1p]

Is Pat Hickey spitballing or does he know something?



At 4:20:

"I think the one player that could get you something in return ... would be Nick Suzuki. I think that they've identified the fact that he's not what they thought they had. It's extremely difficult for the GM to admit that he made a big mistake after identifying this guy as a no. 1 guy."

Why is Suzuki "not what they thought they had" ? What has he shown that was different from his prior years ?

It's either bad scouting before trading for him, or bad scouting right now, because he's the same player, with the same weaknesses and the same strength he had before the Pac trade.

 

[nhlfan9191]

Is Pat Hickey spitballing or does he know something?



At 4:20:

"I think the one player that could get you something in return ... would be Nick Suzuki. I think that they've identified the fact that he's not what they thought they had. It's extremely difficult for the GM to admit that he made a big mistake after identifying this guy as a no. 1 guy."

I was laughing when I listened to that. I’m not sure Pat Hickey knows what year it is anymore.

 

[Sterling Archer]

I bet Melnick would be tempted by a Drouin, 1st + spare parts deal for Duchene and Bobby Ryan.

Saving all that coin would not be easy for him to pass on.

 

[Runner77]

Why is Suzuki "not what they thought they had" ? What has he shown that was different from his prior years ?

It's either bad scouting before trading for him, or bad scouting right now, because he's the same player, with the same weaknesses and the same strength he had before the Pac trade.

I wonder if this isn't Pat Hickey putting his own spin, thinking that MB should have tried to land Glass instead. Of course it would have been better but it wouldn't have been the same deal, would have cost way more. Probably Glass wasn't even available.

I don't know what Hickey means by he's not a no. 1 guy -- so what if he's a second line player? Or did they think Suzuki profiled as a first line player and that he could be a center but now they realize that he likely will be neither so they're making him available? Do the Habs view Suzuki as trade bait? Or is he trade bait according to Hickey only?

 

[UVMCats]

One place Price might waive his NMC to is Colorado....Varlamov is a free agent ....Grubauer is horrible and their top prospect Spencer Martin has not been very good in the AHL.

Why Colorado

 

[1909]

Why Colorado

Because Habs love to trade their best goalies to Colorado....

 

[A55P2]

I wonder if this isn't Pat Hickey putting his own spin, thinking that MB should have tried to land Glass instead. Of course it would have been better but it wouldn't have been the same deal, would have cost way more. Probably Glass wasn't even available.

I don't know what Hickey means by he's not a no. 1 guy -- so what if he's a second line player? Or did they think Suzuki profiled as a first line player and that he could be a center but now they realize that he likely will be neither so they're making him available? Do the Habs view Suzuki as trade bait? Or is he trade bait according to Hickey only?

Yeah, even if he becomes a 2nd line player we would still have got two 2nd line players in that trade, which is pretty damn good! I don't think he's available, we'll need a guy with great passing skills anyway to make our PP work, Drouin ain't cutting it. Suzuki could be a good option on the PP later on.

 

[Runner77]

Yeah, even if he becomes a 2nd line player we would still have got two 2nd line players in that trade, which is pretty damn good! I don't think he's available, we'll need a guy with great passing skills anyway to make our PP work, Drouin ain't cutting it. Suzuki could be a good option on the PP later on.

Absolutely doesn't take anything away from the fact that it was a great deal for the Habs.

Just that the language being used by Hickey appears to suggest that the Habs are making him available but can't tell with certainty.