Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread 47

[ahmedou]

Louis Domingue aimerait jouer pour le Canadien

 

[Kwikwi]

Won't get us no Eichel. The only thing we could trade for him that Buffalo considers would be a Carey Price in his prime. Which we don't really have.
We don't really have anything of value to match with Jack Eichel.
Our most valued assets imo are Nick Suzuki, Shea Weber & Carey Price.

Buffalo won't trade him for one, so might as well look elsewhere.
If he does get traded, there's 30 other clubs calling to see what's the price.
We'll be outbidded easily.

dont know, stars have been dealt for less
Trade like this do happen a lot

Ryan O`Reilly [TBODY] [/TBODY]

July 1, 2018

Vladimir Sobotka Patrik Berglund Tage Thompson 2019 1st round pick 2021 2nd round pick [TBODY] [/TBODY]

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Sasha Orlov]

I would give a serious package to get Eichel!! That’s exactly the kind of player this team needs for the last 20 years!!

Domi+KK+Romanov would be my starting bid

Start with 2020 1st, 2021 1st, Suzuki and Romanov and maybe they don't immediately hang up (but still probably do)

 

[Kwikwi]

Its always Price to Colorado
It is hard to trade him, other than Seattle

Carey Price for Ryan Johanson, Pekka Rinne, Devils 2nd round

 

[Simarino]

Start with 2020 1st, 2021 1st, Suzuki and Romanov and maybe they don't immediately hang up (but still probably do)

Imo KK still worth more then Suzuki even if i LOVE Suz and Domi probably worth at least a first round pick so i wouldn’t have any problem offering 2x1st Suzuki+ Romanov.

If Buffalo hangs up, they better just say that Eichel is untouchable because i doubt they would get a better offer then that. Some teams just can’t afford the cap hit and other just dont have the prospects(if thats what they’re looking for) so if he’s on the market i think the Habs would be part of the front runners to acquire him.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Its always Price to Colorado
It is hard to trade him, other than Seattle

Carey Price for Ryan Johanson, Pekka Rinne, Devils 2nd round

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwweweweweweewwwwweeeeee

 

[Vachon23]

Louis Domingue aimerait jouer pour le Canadien

*Louis Domingue aimerait avoir un poste dans la LNH.

I would love to play In the NHL to even in MTL

 

[MrNasty]

dont know, stars have been dealt for less
Trade like this do happen a lot

Ryan O`Reilly [TBODY] [/TBODY]

July 1, 2018

Vladimir Sobotka Patrik Berglund Tage Thompson 2019 1st round pick 2021 2nd round pick [TBODY] [/TBODY]

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

I agree but anytime a proven player like this is discussed here then it is a big no if it involves a 1st round pick or who we think is a good prospect. MB was trying to get ROR and if I am not mistaken the rumoured deal included Poehling. And everybody was freaking out cause MB was going to trade our prized centre prospect for an older slower player.

 

[Habs Icing]

I agree but anytime a proven player like this is discussed here then it is a big no if it involves a 1st round pick or who we think is a good prospect. MB was trying to get ROR and if I am not mistaken the rumoured deal included Poehling. And everybody was freaking out cause MB was going to trade our prized centre prospect for an older slower player.

Well, that's because many posters thought Poehling was going to give KK a run for the center position. Ironically, they were probably right. For the #3 center spot.

 

[ahmedou]

Eichel: I was a Canadiens fan in Boston

*8:08

 

[Big Empty]

Eichel: I was a Canadiens fan in Boston

*8:08

Eichel is sick. I watched the Sabres a bunch this year to see him. He’d be the best forward we’ve had in decades. There’s no player I wouldn’t move for him.

 

[Scriptor]

I agree but anytime a proven player like this is discussed here then it is a big no if it involves a 1st round pick or who we think is a good prospect. MB was trying to get ROR and if I am not mistaken the rumoured deal included Poehling. And everybody was freaking out cause MB was going to trade our prized centre prospect for an older slower player.

It's always a game of moving goal posts to suit one need -- Crapping on the Hab organization, thick and through.

When there were talks of trying to acquire ROR, Bergevin was a moron. ROR was not a top-6 C. Now, St-Louis won the Cup with ROR and Bergevin is a moron not to have given up more than St-Louis gave up to get ROR.

I give up...

 

[habstradamus]

Start with 2020 1st, 2021 1st, Suzuki and Romanov and maybe they don't immediately hang up (but still probably do)

I think the offer you are making is legit but not if your are MB at this stage of the rebuild. He has too much invested in the retool to throw away his budding young prospects.

Based on what MB has done in recent past I would venture to say he would consider the following:

• 1st, 2nd, 3rd, as MB was willing to give this away in the Seb Aho Offer sheet
• Suzuky and Romanov are branded to MB; they will never leave.
• I could see him shed with some A-/B prospects (Poeling, Harris, Brook, Hillis, Fleury, etc...) and
• one of his smaller good/very good players (Domi, Drouin, Byron, Tartar, ...)

I would try therefore try

• 2020 1st, 2nd 2021 (not ours if possible; as I want to preserve this for potential RFA OS), 2020 3rd.
• Poeling, Fleury
• Domi

This only works of course if the Sabres are willing to move on from from Eichel as they did with ROR.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Start with 2020 1st, 2021 1st, Suzuki and Romanov and maybe they don't immediately hang up (but still probably do)

Habs would definitely have the pieces to trade for Eichel. However, Sabres not going to trade him. If you can't re-build around Eichel and Dahlin, you might as well fold the franchise

 

[Sasha Orlov]

I think the offer you are making is legit but not if your are MB at this stage of the rebuild. He has too much invested in the retool to throw away his budding young prospects.

Based on what MB has done in recent past I would venture to say he would consider the following:

• 1st, 2nd, 3rd, as MB was willing to give this away in the Seb Aho Offer sheet
• Suzuky and Romanov are branded to MB; they will never leave.
• I could see him shed with some A-/B prospects (Poeling, Harris, Brook, Hillis, Fleury, etc...) and
• one of his smaller good/very good players (Domi, Drouin, Byron, Tartar, ...)

I would try therefore try

• 2020 1st, 2nd 2021 (not ours if possible; as I want to preserve this for potential RFA OS), 2020 3rd.
• Poeling, Fleury
• Domi

This only works of course if the Sabres are willing to move on from from Eichel as they did with ROR.

Habs would definitely have the pieces to trade for Eichel. However, Sabres not going to trade him. If you can't re-build around Eichel and Dahlin, you might as well fold the franchise

Yeah I wouldn't make this offer, not worth it for the Habs, just saying that it would take at least this for Buffalo to even listen imo

 

[Habs Halifax]

Yeah I wouldn't make this offer, not worth it for the Habs, just saying that it would take at least this for Buffalo to even listen imo

It would be a massive negotiation if the Sabres moved Eichel in a trade. Lots of teams would be interested and it would be a bidding war. If the Habs wanted him badly, we could be front runners with the assets we have in our prospect pool and the picks we have.

What would it take? Not sure but it would be a lot

 

[DAChampion]

The Habs should trade for Eichel and then send an offersheet to Dahlin next summer.

 

[Vachon23]

It would be a massive negotiation if the Sabres moved Eichel in a trade. Lots of teams would be interested and it would be a bidding war. If the Habs wanted him badly, we could be front runners with the assets we have in our prospect pool and the picks we have.

What would it take? Not sure but it would be a lot

Especially to division rival ! I’m sure they would try to trade him in the west first

 

[Habs Halifax]

Especially to division rival ! I’m sure they would try to trade him in the west first

100%. We would have to overpay any offer a western team offers. Similar to the ROR trade negotiations.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

The Habs should trade for Eichel and then send an offersheet to Dahlin next summer.

This would cost the Habs all 1st round picks through like 2030 hahaha

 

[DAChampion]

100%. We would have to overpay any offer a western team offers. Similar to the ROR trade negotiations.

If the Sabres GM is that big a moron that he requires an overpayment from a division rival, then let that team drown and move on.

 

[Habs Halifax]

If the Sabres GM is that big a moron that he requires an overpayment from a division rival, then let that team drown and move on.

Doubt Eichel is going to get traded anyways. Could change over time but don't see that happening anytime soon

 

[HabsForHire]

Id do KK, poehling, brook, domi, 1st and probably more. I just love eichel and and he is a legitimate franchise center

 

[Scriptor]

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Id do KK, poehling, brook, domi, 1st and probably more. I just love eichel and and he is a legitimate franchise center

Hell, so would I. With Eichel, we could actually have a chance at signing Hall, then. In the short run, we could see this with coalfield coming up and being surrounded like other teams do:

Hall - Eichel - Caufield (Elite offensive line)
Tatar - Danault - Gallagher (Two-way shutdown line)
Drouin - Suzuki - Armia (Offensive exploitation line)
Lehkonen - Evans - Ylonen

With Montreal trading Mete + for Leddy, it would be worthwhile to re-sign Petry (something I'd have been totally against otherwise) as Montreal could compete immediately and for the next three or four years, easily.

Leddy - Weber
Romanov - Petry
Chiarot - Juulsen/Fleury

Price
Primeau

How good would that be!?

Only problem is we'd be something like 5-10M over the Cap if all the youngsters hit their full bonuses

Danault getting 5M like Pageau would now actually hurt but, the C-line would have lost all three of Kotkaniemi, Domi and Poehling.

Including Poehling in the trade would hurt our roster flexibility under the Cap, IMO. So, maybe the trade should be structured to include Danault, rather than Poehling, whose salary can be more controlled in the short to medium term, especially if you go for a more traditional 3rd line by sacrificing Tatar as well in a trade elsewhere to bring back some more futures that will be necessary to keep juggling the Cap.

Hall - Eichel - Caufield (9M + 10M +3.5M = 23M, with almost full bonuses to Caufield)
Drouin - Suzuki - Gallagher (5.5M + 3.5M + 6M = 15M, including almost full bonuses for Suzuki)
Byron - Poehling - Armia (3.4M + 2M + 2.6M = 8M, including partial bonuses for Poehling)
Lehkonen - Evans - Ylonen (2.4M +1.1M + 1.5M = 5M, including partial bonuses for Evans and Ylonen

Forwards = 51M

Leddy - Weber (5.5M + 7.86M = 13.36M)
Romanov - Petry (2.5M + 5M = 7.5M, with new 5M contract for Petry and partial bonus for Romanov)
Chiarot - Juulsen/Fleury (3.5M + 863K = 4.438M)

Defensemen = 25,25M



Price (10.5M)
Primeau (925K)

Total Goalies = 11.425M

Total = 87.675M

With a flat Cap at 82M, Montreal is still a little over 5M past the cap ceiling -- And that's only with a 20-man roster and no injury reserve.

The only way this could work out is if Montreal goes with a youngster like Primeau and another youngster for a G platoon and dishes price off to Seattle at the expansion draft, or something like that.

 

[Vachon23]

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Hell, so would I. With Eichel, we could actually have a chance at signing Hall, then. In the short run, we could see this with coalfield coming up and being surrounded like other teams do:

Hall - Eichel - Caufield (Elite offensive line)
Tatar - Danault - Gallagher (Two-way shutdown line)
Drouin - Suzuki - Armia (Offensive exploitation line)
Lehkonen - Evans - Ylonen

With Montreal trading Mete + for Leddy, it would be worthwhile to re-sign Petry (something I'd have been totally against otherwise) as Montreal could compete immediately and for the next three or four years, easily.

Leddy - Weber
Romanov - Petry
Chiarot - Juulsen/Fleury

Price
Primeau

How good would that be!?

Only problem is we'd be something like 5-10M over the Cap if all the youngsters hit their full bonuses

Danault getting 5M like Pageau would now actually hurt but, the C-line would have lost all three of Kotkaniemi, Domi and Poehling.

Including Poehling in the trade would hurt our roster flexibility under the Cap, IMO. So, maybe the trade should be structured to include Danault, rather than Poehling, whose salary can be more controlled in the short to medium term, especially if you go for a more traditional 3rd line by sacrificing Tatar as well in a trade elsewhere to bring back some more futures that will be necessary to keep juggling the Cap.

Hall - Eichel - Caufield (9M + 10M +3.5M = 23M, with almost full bonuses to Caufield)
Drouin - Suzuki - Gallagher (5.5M + 3.5M + 6M = 15M, including almost full bonuses for Suzuki)
Byron - Poehling - Armia (3.4M + 2M + 2.6M = 8M, including partial bonuses for Poehling)
Lehkonen - Evans - Ylonen (2.4M +1.1M + 1.5M = 5M, including partial bonuses for Evans and Ylonen

Forwards = 51M

Leddy - Weber (5.5M + 7.86M = 13.36M)
Romanov - Petry (2.5M + 5M = 7.5M, with new 5M contract for Petry and partial bonus for Romanov)
Chiarot - Juulsen/Fleury (3.5M + 863K = 4.438M)

Defensemen = 25,25M



Price (10.5M)
Primeau (925K)

Total Goalies = 11.425M

Total = 87.675M

With a flat Cap at 82M, Montreal is still a little over 5M past the cap ceiling -- And that's only with a 20-man roster and no injury reserve.

The only way this could work out is if Montreal goes with a youngster like Primeau and another youngster for a G platoon and dishes price off to Seattle at the expansion draft, or something like that.