Speculation: Trade Ideas and Free Agency IX - Wild Looking For A Defenseman?

[AKL]

Do you think we need to take into account the teams they played for and not just raw numbers?

No, because trying to project goalies stats to another team is a complete crapshoot. People though Miller was going to be god after all the seasons he had in Buffalo. I mean he has to get much much better, right? Nope.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

No, because trying to project goalies stats to another team is a complete crapshoot. People though Miller was going to be god after all the seasons he had in Buffalo. I mean he has to get much much better, right? Nope.

I agree it is a crapshoot, and your Miller example does make sense. I just feel it has to be factored in somewhere but I see your point.

 

[Engebretson]

Per LeBrun, everyone on waivers cleared yesterday, meaning the Wild didn't think Bryan Allen on waivers would be a good enough addition to the blueline, which I agree with.

Carter Ashton is now on waivers too.

 

[nickschultzfan]

Per LeBrun, everyone on waivers cleared yesterday, meaning the Wild didn't think Bryan Allen on waivers would be a good enough addition to the blueline, which I agree with.

Carter Ashton is now on waivers too.

We should picked up Ashton. HFboards tells me he has good trade value.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Parise - Koivu - Kessel
Vanek - Granlund - Nino
Zucker - Haula/Graovac - Cooke/Fontaine/Schroeder/Whoever

Out: Pominville and Coyle

Tuch takes Vanek's spot in 2.5 years and our 2015 1st rounder takes Koivu's in 2-4.

Throwing **** at a wall.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

Parise - Koivu - Kessel
Vanek - Granlund - Nino
Zucker - Haula/Graovac - Cooke/Fontaine/Schroeder/Whoever

Out: Pominville and Coyle

Tuch takes Vanek's spot in 2.5 years and our 2015 1st rounder takes Koivu's in 2-4.

Throwing **** at a wall.

He would help the Powerplay... Maybe

 

[iLLogik87]

Parise - Koivu - Kessel
Vanek - Granlund - Nino
Zucker - Haula/Graovac - Cooke/Fontaine/Schroeder/Whoever

Out: Pominville and Coyle

Tuch takes Vanek's spot in 2.5 years and our 2015 1st rounder takes Koivu's in 2-4.

Throwing **** at a wall.

I would love that. I can't see Fletcher pulling the trigger on his beloved Pominville, though. He gave up a lot for him.

 

[Minny Lakes]

Sounds like Phaneuf is available too? he'd be the big physical Dman we would need. I think he just signed a huge contract so not sure if we have room for him.

suter-Phaneuf 24 minutes
Scandella-Brodin. 18 minutes
spurgeon-folin. 18 minutes

Balances the minutes out too, assuming we trade forwards instead of our dmen.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

Sounds like Phaneuf is available too? he'd be the big physical Dman we would need. I think he just signed a huge contract so not sure if we have room for him.

Most recent photo of Dion Phaneuf in action

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Sounds like Phaneuf is available too? he'd be the big physical Dman we would need. I think he just signed a huge contract so not sure if we have room for him.

suter-Phaneuf 24 minutes
Scandella-Brodin. 18 minutes
spurgeon-folin. 18 minutes

Balances the minutes out too, assuming we trade forwards instead of our dmen.

Never liked Phaneuf. I don't think he's as bad as the public consensus seems to be, but I'd pass on him.

 

[born2Bwild]

What goalies are rumored to be on the block right now who would be worth going after?

Enroth, Ward...

Any chance they could pry Gibson away from the ducks without a crazy overpayment? Or take a shot at someone like Pickard or Darling

 

[Nharris31]

What goalies are rumored to be on the block right now who would be worth going after?

Enroth, Ward...

Any chance they could pry Gibson away from the ducks without a crazy overpayment? Or take a shot at someone like Pickard or Darling

Not going after young goalies who are having good years. The best option is enroth.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

Enroth makes sense to me ( I know I am beating a dead horse here as I have said it for weeks) but $$ wise it makes the most sense to me

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

And we carry 3 goalies on the roster? With how often we've had 2, 3, or 4 guys out of the lineup at once, I don't think it's the best idea.

 

[Jarick]

^ Exactly.

Also, I heard Stu Bickel can play forward, defense, or goalie.

 

[born2Bwild]

Not going after young goalies who are having good years.

Elaborate

Not saying you're wrong - just wondering your reasons for being so definitive. I don't think it would be wise to pay a big price for someone who hasn't proven much, but if they don't figure into their current team's immediate future and could be had for a decent price it might be worth it. Young goalies having good years has resulted in a cup or two.

 

[Antsman41]

Lets trade Yeo for Kessel...

#CoachKessel

 

[tomgilbertfan]

^ Exactly.

Also, I heard Stu Bickel can play forward, defense, or goalie.

Bickel will be the rare Player-Coach-GM-Refrigerator.

 

[Nharris31]

Elaborate

Not saying you're wrong - just wondering your reasons for being so definitive. I don't think it would be wise to pay a big price for someone who hasn't proven much, but if they don't figure into their current team's immediate future and could be had for a decent price it might be worth it. Young goalies having good years has resulted in a cup or two.

Then you could end up stuck with more than on young struggling goaltender. There is reason why Anaheim signed Bryzgalov.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

And we carry 3 goalies on the roster? With how often we've had 2, 3, or 4 guys out of the lineup at once, I don't think it's the best idea.

I see your point. Ideally (obviously) Backstrom would go back up somewhere.

 

[Jarick]

5v5 Save % (rank)

Enroth
Age 22: 0.921 (37)
Age 23: 0.923 (28)
Age 24: 0.934 (9)
Age 25: 0.929 (18)
Age 26: 0.920 (31)

Kuemper
Age 22: 0.913 (44)
Age 23: 0.934 (10)
Age 24: 0.905 (51)

I like Enroth's consistency in terms of save percentage. He's been an average goalie with one great year on a bad team. Kuemper has been a below-average goalie with one great year on a mediocre team.

If GMCF can find a way to get Backstrom off the roster and get Enroth without giving up a 1st or one of the really good young players or prospects, that's awesome. I think he could be a good starting goalie for the Wild, and that would let Kuemper play in a backup role until he can develop some consistency.

If the Wild have to give up a 1st or a high end prospect/young player? Not interested. Enroth is a good goalie, not a great one. Wild already gave up their 2nd round pick.

Buffalo fans aren't going to want to give up Enroth for a 3rd + mid prospect. I don't see that. I think his value is probably a 2nd + mid prospect. But what do I know.

I just don't see a fit right now.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

5v5 Save % (rank)

Enroth
Age 22: 0.921 (37)
Age 23: 0.923 (28)
Age 24: 0.934 (9)
Age 25: 0.929 (18)
Age 26: 0.920 (31)

Kuemper
Age 22: 0.913 (44)
Age 23: 0.934 (10)
Age 24: 0.905 (51)

I like Enroth's consistency in terms of save percentage. He's been an average goalie with one great year on a bad team. Kuemper has been a below-average goalie with one great year on a mediocre team.

If GMCF can find a way to get Backstrom off the roster and get Enroth without giving up a 1st or one of the really good young players or prospects, that's awesome. I think he could be a good starting goalie for the Wild, and that would let Kuemper play in a backup role until he can develop some consistency.

If the Wild have to give up a 1st or a high end prospect/young player? Not interested. Enroth is a good goalie, not a great one. Wild already gave up their 2nd round pick.

Buffalo fans aren't going to want to give up Enroth for a 3rd + mid prospect. I don't see that. I think his value is probably a 2nd + mid prospect. But what do I know.

I just don't see a fit right now.

Good analysis and post. I can't see how Buffalo would justify needing a 1st + for him. 3rd + mid prospect (like you said) would be ideal.

 

[elnewby]

Lets trade Yeo for Kessel...

#CoachKessel

Phil looks a lot more like a coach than he does a hockey player.

 

[Sarge58]

No way we give up our first for a goalie. The PO's as of right now is not looking pretty even with a decent Goalie. If we suddenly start looking good we can wait till the tdl and see If there's a quality backup who could step in as a starter if need be.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

No way we give up our first for a goalie. The PO's as of right now is not looking pretty even with a decent Goalie. If we suddenly start looking good we can wait till the tdl and see If there's a quality backup who could step in as a starter if need be.

We have two back ups....