Speculation: Trade & Free Agency Talk XXXVII

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  1. nickschultzfan Registered User

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    I agree. But very limited pool of high end centers. Monahan makes sense, but it is a bunch of ??? after that. Maybe Aho?

    Buffalo would want a center and RHD as a pair. An actual NHLers. List of teams that could provide both is even smaller.

    Wild I would put in a small group of maybe 3 teams that could get it done.
     
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    Wild have no chance if Buffalo wants a center as a significant piece.

    Buffalo would likely start by calling to see if anyone was willing to go 1 for 1 or at least close to it for guys like Barkov, Barzal, Petterson, Larkin, Aho. I just don't see the likelihood?

    After that you're looking at Guys like Horvat, Monahan, Domi, Couturier, Dubois, Hughes, Hischier, Johansen, Zibanejad. I'm pretty sure everyone of these guys would be available for Eichel but then the question would be how much they're willing to add to those guys? Plus, these teams have to actually have that kind of player. It's really easy to say "top 6 center and top RHD" it's not as easy when you have to actually put names to those titles.
     
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    Most of the teams you named will not make offers for Eichel.
     
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    Based on?
     
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    All of those teams would at least be willing to have a conversation about it.
     
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    Buffalo would likely not get equal center value back, in any case. Their goal would/should be to minimize that damage while massively upgrading another important position.

    It would take the other team in the deal being in a very specific position, player-wise, for Buffalo not to get demolished in any Eichel deal.
     
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    Buffalo's 1A option comes with getting back a 1st line center. But those teams mentioned who might a trade young center don't have many assets to add to bridge gap up to Eichel.

    Those teams are either (1) rebuilding themselves and would be morons to trade into the problem Buffalo has (disgruntled Eichel without much of a team) or (2) are competitive teams that cannot afford to give up roster players, since they are looking for an upgrade, and therefore they cannot give Buffalo a top-4 Dman or 1st line winger.

    There will be other teams, but it is always a smaller pool than fans think.
     
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    Dark horse for Eichel is a team like Tampa. Stacked with talent that can offer Buffalo 3-4 players plus picks, but at end of day that is a low cost for them because they need to drop salary anyways.
     
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    Hello Minnesota fans! Greetings from the desert.

    A Coyotes fan posted this proposal on our board:

    To MIN
    Nick Schmaltz
    Antti Raanta
    Alex Goligoski

    To ARI
    Matt Dumba
    Jordan Greenway
    Alex Stalock

    I wanted to get your thoughts on it. Could there be a deal buried somewhere in here? Or is it so off target we can't even tweak it to make it work? Feel free to flame :)

    Thanks!
     
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    I’m personally not totally against something around Dumba for Schmaltz, but you lose me with Raanta and Goligoski. We don’t need a replacement for Dumba back if we trade him, especially not someone like Goligoski. And we would likely look to drop one of Dubnyk or Stalock to let Kahkonen try to take over, trading a goalie for a goalie wouldn’t really allow that to happen, though Raanta is a better option than what we have at the moment.
     
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    Interesting. Thank you!

    How could we make Schmaltz for Dumba work, if we start with that as a base?
     
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    That's pretty awful.

    Swap Dubnyk for Staock, take out Greenway, and you still probably need to add a piece from Arizona.
     
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    It’s not a bad offer at all. If Raanata wasn’t always hurt I’d probably do it.
     
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    Really? I think it's bloody awful for MN.
     
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    That's a hard pass, to be honest.
     
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    Any hope on expanding Schmaltz for Dumba in an agreeable way?
     
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    I'm not sure you couldn't just make it the deal, instead of the base for one.

    Top 6 C vs. top 4 RHD. Pretty even.

    Dumba is older, slightly more expensive and signed for shorter, but he's also shown a higher peak.
     
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    Yuck
     
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    Meh.
     
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    Good point. I’d be open to that.
     
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    I would bet on Tampa or Vegas perhaps. The biggest problem for the Wild would be that Eichel would probably nix a deal. Minnesota has to prove that their going places before they can start attracting elite players like him.
     
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    He wouldn't nix a deal to a significantly better team. A borderline playoff team would be a dream for him.
     
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    Scenario I would like to see is a strong playoff by Wild with JEE breaking out a bit, like 10 points in 14 games. Which is possible considering how out of shape the league will be and how much of a fitness nut he is.

    Then Guerin has a story to tell both Buffalo and Eichel.
     
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    Funny you should mention JEE and Eichel …

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    Having Fiala, solid defense and Kap on the way plus making the playoffs more recently then buffalo should be quite enticing for him.
     

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