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    Which UFAs will be for sale at this year's deadline, and what are they worth?

    Where could they be traded? Here are some names:

    Ottawa - Derek Stepan, Artem Anisimov, Braydon Coburn, Erik Gudbranson, Ryan Dzingel
    Vancouver - Tanner Pearson, Brandon Sutter, Travis Hamonic, Alex Edler, Jordie Benn
    Winnipeg - Adam Lowry, Paul Stastny, Mathieu Perreault, Derek Fortbort, Tucker Poolman, Trevor Lewis, Laurent Brossoit
    Montreal - Phillip Danault, Tomas Tatar, Joel Armia, Corey Perry, Michael Frolik

    Anaheim - Ryan Getzlaf
    San Jose - Matt Nieto, Devan Dubnyk, Patrick Marleau
    Arizona - Derick Brassard, Jason Demers, Nik Hjalmarsson, Alex Goligoski, Antti Raanta
    Los Angeles - Alex Iafallo
    Minnesota - Nick Bonino, Marcus Johansson, Ian Cole, Nick Bjugstad

    Buffalo - Taylor Hall, Eric Staal, Riley Sheahan, Brandon Montour, Jake McCabe, Linus Ullmark, Carter Hutton
    New Jersey - Nikita Gusev, Travis Zajac, Kyle Palmieri, Dmitry Kulikov, Sami Vatanen, Ryan Murray, Aaron Dell

    Nashville - Mikael Granlund, Erik Haula, Pekka Rinne, Luca Sbisa, Brad Richardson
    Detroit - Bobby Ryan, Valtteri Filppula, Luke Glendening, Darren Helm, Sam Gagner, Marc Staal, Patrik Nemeth, Jon Merrill
    Chicago - Mattias Janmark, Carl Soderberg
    Dallas - Andrew Cogliano, Blake Comeau, Jamie Oleksiak, Mark Pysyk
     
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    Avs need a 3C.

    Players of interest from the names you mentioned: Lowry, Stastny, Copp, Danault, Bonino, Staal, Zajac, Granlund, Haula.

    Guys with term like Tierney or Backlund might be alternatives as well.
     
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    Add Sorensen and Noesen to SJ. I imagine one of Nieto, Noesen or Sorensen end in Dallas. The other going to some other team in need of solid fourth liners.
     
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    Jet's won't be a seller at the deadline...Neither will Montreal.
     
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    Let me introduce you the best center in the NHL for Nathan MacKinnon, Philipp "I'm worth 6M" Danault. We will listen to offers
     
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    I don't think it's worth opening that can of worms again as Avs and Montreal fans have already debated that ad nauseum. Montreal probably aren't moving Danault anyhow.
     
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    Take my post with a grain of salt. I was joking
     
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    He would be an amazing pickup for your team in free agency
     
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    Granlund - 2nd+
    Haula - 3rd
    Rinne - Not being traded
    Sbisa - anything
    Richardson - 4th
     
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    in detroit glendennys a good checking 4 line center that can deal with physicality and win face offs , a 3rd . bobby ryan is showing flashes of talent and i could see him a fit on a 3 line for a contender , a 3rd . and nemeth as a big bodied 3rd pairing pk guy could help somebody , a 4th
     
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    For the hawks

    Janmark- 2rd pick
    Soderberg- 4th-5th round pick
     
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    Taylor Hall sweepstakes out of Buffalo = a first ++

    Ryan Getzlaf if he will accept a trade out Anaheim would be an interesting move........ He is a family man though .........with covid era....... he probably will not sign off on a trade.
     
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    Danault will eventually agree to even less $4M+ to stay with the Habs.
     
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    Nick bjustad isn't going anywhere. Being Minnesota born, & Fiala or kaprizov needing a c.
     
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    Glendenning won't get more than a 4th or 5th at best.

    Bobby Ryan doesn't really fit in the bottom 6 on a contender so I'm not sure there will be that much interest. Maybe for a 4th or something just because he's cheap.

    Nemeth with 50% retained could get a 3rd if not a late 2nd.

    Bernier if he's healthy could probably fetch a 3rd or so at 50% retained as well given how the goalie market looks.
     
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    Janmark isn't getting that. His possession metrics are literally the worst in the league and the only player under 40% CF%.
     
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    Watch him play. He’s scoring and playing defense like he always did. Don’t really care about analytics.
    Either way if he doesn’t get a second, oh well.
     
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    Janmark has been great for Chicago
     
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    Put the sheet of paper down and watch the games. I’m very surprised with Janmark.
     
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    Been very surprised offensively with him
     
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    From the Canucks:

    Edler- Won't waive to leave Vancouver. He will sign a retirement deal with the Canucks. He has been very good this season.
    Pearson- Poor mans top 6. If a team has a whole there, he can fill it adequately. I can't see the Canucks brining him back, unless he takes a significant pay cut. I think he could return a 2nd.
    Sutter- Good bottom 6 player, who will help a team that needs some D from their forwards. With retention he will be able to get a 3rd.

    Benn has been pretty good this year, but not sure there is a market for him. He may be resigned to meet Expansion requirements.
     
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    Could Getzlaf really be traded? Shouldn't he retire a duck?
     
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    For crying out loud...
     
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    My opinion isn't only driven by advanced stats. I just think this is a classic case of a player outperforming his career numbers by a good margin in a bigger role than he's really suited for.

    First of all, notice his shooting % this season is at 20.7%. That's 3 times his rate last year and double his career average. Considering that he has one of the worst muffin shots in the league I'd be shocked if he keeps that rate of scoring up.

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    Secondly, notice that his TOI is up by 2-3 minutes compared to his time in Dallas. As shown in the charts below Janmark is also playing with 2nd line level linemates in Chicago compared to being a bottom 6 forward in Dallas last season.

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    Possession metrics are also highly valued by GM's, and the fact that Janmark basically gets caved in everytime he's on the ice (which is what a sub-40% CF% indicates) isn't very appealing.

    When assessing value you have to consider it from the perspective of a buying team. They aren't buying him to be a top 6 forward with the expectation that he's going to continue to shoot 20%. Rather, they'd be interested in him as a 4th line PK specialist. Is that worth a 2nd round pick? Probably not. Teams could easily just grab Glendenning or some other 4th liner for a lesser price to fill that sort of role.

    That said, it's fair enough if Chicago dig their heels in and prefer to keep the player instead of selling him for less than a 2nd. That's their prerogative if they feel that they're not getting what they want. Though I would argue that they should move him for whatever they can get at the deadline so stock up on some draft picks during their rebuild/retool.
     
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    Don't see Getzlaf being moved, especially with Zegras being called up now. Organization wants him to help mentor Zegras. Plus, Getzlaf has said he has no desire to leave Anaheim.
     

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