Post-Game Talk: Trade Deadline Day/Week

[DonnyNucker]

holy sh*t. It’s takes like this that just make you shake your head and wonder if people really understand the game in any respect at all.

The guy is absolutely NOT trash. The guy is an excellent bottom pairing dman that can slot in as a number 4. He’s excellent positionally and moves the puck well. He also bleeds Canuck colours and is an outstanding teammate.

He’s not Derek Pouliot or Matt Bartkowski. That’s trash.

Wake up.

Poliot and Bartowski aren’t NHLers. Stecher is. Barely. He is constantly getting crushed in his own end and he has a muffin shot. We need some size on the backend not another smurf. I don’t give a f*** what the analytics say (although I’m pretty sure they also say he is sh!t). I watch every game and the ice is tilted towards our net every time he steps over the boards. We aren’t winning jack in the playoffs until our weak links are upgraded. Stecher and our 4th line need work

 

[WTG]

I'm kind of just waiting for the trade to happen.
I doubt it happens on deadline day, probably tonight. If it happens at all.

 

[LuckyBoeser]

Man. Kovalchuk and Ovechkin together in Washington could be fun to watch.

It depends on what version of Kovalchuk the Capitals get. The LA Kovalchuk or the Habs Kovalchuk?

 

[DonnyNucker]

I'm kind of just waiting for the trade to happen.
I doubt it happens on deadline day, probably tonight. If it happens at all.

It’s probably jus the eastern media trying to drum up hype over Barrie. Doubt anything happens...other than maybe a Simmonds type move

 

[timw33]

Extension incoming for Bergervin

I know what you're trying to do here, but a 2nd and 3rd is more than every pick Benning has acquired at the deadline cumulatively (including 3 seasons where we were not even close to playoffs at the deadline).

Picks acquired at the deadline through 6 seasons current stands at a single 4th round pick.

We're essentially just passing up free picks by holding onto all of our pending UFAs in years past, or trying to trade them for age gap/waiver eligible prospects. Picks are absolutely flying off the shelves for marginal players at the deadline.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Marc Bergevin is the embodiment of the HF armchair GM mentality where the goal isn’t to make the playoffs but to get extra 3rd round picks and hope everything will turn out okay

Not really. Bergevin has made some good moves, especially acquiring picks, but the Habs have made some terrible picks and some terrible trade decisions, see: trading Sergachev for Drouin.

 

[DonnyNucker]

I know what you're trying to do here, but a 2nd and 3rd is more than every pick Benning has acquired at the deadline cumulatively (including 3 seasons where we were not even close to playoffs at the deadline).

Picks acquired at the deadline through 6 seasons current stands at a single 4th round pick.

We're essentially just passing up free picks by holding onto all of our pending UFAs in years past, or trying to trade them for age gap/waiver eligible prospects. Picks are absolutely flying off the shelves for marginal players at the deadline.

Benning doesn’t value picks. Other than first round picks that is. Rightly or wrongly they aren’t a priority and never have been

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

I know what you're trying to do here, but a 2nd and 3rd is more than every pick Benning has acquired at the deadline cumulatively (including 3 seasons where we were not even close to playoffs at the deadline).

Picks acquired at the deadline through 6 seasons current stands at a single 4th round pick.

DOES NOT MATTER, in Bergervin’s case particularly

Marc Bergervins has been trying to make the Habs win now for a while, he fails every time.
They were suppose to be in the playoffs this season lead by a young core, instead every young player who has looked promising before the season has failed miserably except Suzuki.

But Bergervin would probably gets another another another extension because LATE ROUND PICKS!!!

 

[canuckking1]

DOES NOT MATTER, in Bergervin’s case particularly

Marc Bergervins has been trying to make the Habs win now for a while, he fails every time.
They were suppose to be in the playoffs this season lead by a young core, instead everyone young player who has looked promising before the season has failed miserably except Suzuki.

But Bergervin would be probab gets another another another extension because LATE ROUND PICKS!!!

Bergevin gets extensions because he's french Canadian no other reason.

 

[Catamarca Livin]

Drafting Hughes and Petterson has made up for a lot of mistakes. I would say it has made up for all the mistakes. Hughes is an elite dman who is likely worth then both Thachuk's by himself. We likely got our franchise best d man and center in back to back drafts. The biggest mistakes of Benning is the OJ pick, the Ericksson signing and then Gradbranson trade. Hughes and Petterson have made up for first two, through ELC production. and Pearson largely made up for 3rd big mistake. You can now argue team is where it should be in a good rebuild. Sutter Beagle and Sven are cap issues tbd still but should not kill rebuild.

 

[dombrova22]

I'm kind of just waiting for the trade to happen.
I doubt it happens on deadline day, probably tonight. If it happens at all.

Yeah - I feel like it fell through or it would have been done by now.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

I know what you're trying to do here, but a 2nd and 3rd is more than every pick Benning has acquired at the deadline cumulatively (including 3 seasons where we were not even close to playoffs at the deadline).


Picks acquired at the deadline through 6 seasons current stands at a single 4th round pick.

We're essentially just passing up free picks by holding onto all of our pending UFAs in years past, or trying to trade them for age gap/waiver eligible prospects. Picks are absolutely flying off the shelves for marginal players at the deadline.

in before people start to move the goal post

YES, Benning should get fired if we missed the playoffs this season, because he made the Miller trade that shows his intention from the start.

Even if we manage to get 10 more picks before the draft, he still should be fired

 

[WTG]

Yeah - I feel like it fell through or it would have been done by now.

If a trade happens it'll happen in the next two and a half hours.
Don't think Eastern GMs are going to be up later than 12 EST since they have to get up early for the TDL.

 

[Zombotron]

I hope a GM leaves their phone at home again

Spoiler

this happened in 2008

 

[WetcoastOrca]

I hope a GM leaves their phone at home again

Non TDL but my favourite was when Dale Tallon failed to get eight qualifying offers sent to his players in time.

 

[rypper]

I understand being jealous of Marc Bergevin. The habs are a team in the stage of their life cycle where playoffs aren't happening and it's time to sell off and rebuild.

We just went through that for the last 4 seasons but didn't sell off really anything, didn't accumulate draft picks, and barely rebuilt.

Now it doesn't make sense for Vancouver to do that, but when you wanted the team to do it for the past 4 seasons, I get the jealousy.

 

[rypper]

Non TDL but my favourite was when Dale Tallon failed to get eight qualifying offers sent to his players in time.

There was a rumor that he was looking at acquiring Gudbranson again. How is he still employed as a NHL GM?

 

[Jay Cee]

holy sh*t. It’s takes like this that just make you shake your head and wonder if people really understand the game in any respect at all.

The guy is absolutely NOT trash. The guy is an excellent bottom pairing dman that can slot in as a number 4. He’s excellent positionally and moves the puck well. He also bleeds Canuck colours and is an outstanding teammate.

He’s not Derek Pouliot or Matt Bartkowski. That’s trash.

Wake up.

Barrie is better but I really don't see the need to get rid of Stecher and pay for a rental in Barrie. It would be different if had the luxury to add Barrie to a strong d corps that we want to platoon into whatever role he might fit, and if he does well, great. We would be adding Barrie to be a nice upgrade on Stetcher that will make a big difference in our d corps but he isn't. I think it says a lot that two teams in a playoff hunt are looking to trade each player...

 

[Zombotron]

I was hoping to find a clip from the 2008 TSN deadline special to corroborate my claim but there's nothing on YT

Have a Steve Dangle video instead

 

[WetcoastOrca]

I understand being jealous of Marc Bergevin. The habs are a team in the stage of their life cycle where playoffs aren't happening and it's time to sell off and rebuild.

We just went through that for the last 4 seasons but didn't sell off really anything, didn't accumulate draft picks, and barely rebuilt.

Now it doesn't make sense for Vancouver to do that, but when you wanted the team to do it for the past 4 seasons, I get the jealousy.

I’m not jealous at all. Habs are my second favourite team. They’ve been stuck in mediocrity for years and no end in sight. They can’t even tank with the Weber and Price contracts. They have no real superstars. Just a mess. Not sure how Bergevin still has a job.

 

[rypper]

I’m not jealous at all. Habs are my second favourite team. They’ve been stuck in mediocrity for years and no end in sight. They can’t even tank with the Weber and Price contracts. They have no real superstars. Just a mess. Not sure how Bergevin still has a job.

Simplify it to, they're a team that sees they aren't making the playoffs this year and are selling off assets for futures/picks.

When that's all you wanted your GM to do for the last 4 years, I can see the jealousy.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Simplify it to, they're a team that sees they aren't making the playoffs this year and are selling off assets for futures/picks.

When that's all you wanted your GM to do for the last 4 years, I can see the jealousy.

Oh don’t get me wrong I wish Benning has done that too. It would have really sped up the rebuild. I just don’t think it moves the needle at all for Montreal. I like what LA and the NYR are doing a lot better. They’ve got the high end prospects and the picks.

 

[leafsfan2point0]

Leafs fan here, I’ve been a huge Barrie fan since his junior days but for whatever reason he just hasn’t fit. We don’t have someone like Edler for him to play with which makes me think they would be a good tandem. Ever since Keefe came in his offensive game improved dramatically.

 

[Bgav]

Weird all the rumours have died down

 

[Brock Boeser Laser Show]

Weird all the rumours have died down

Hopefully it’s nothing and “insiders” are just trying to generate heat for what is likeLy a tame deadline.