Confirmed with Link: TRADE: Bruins get Nick Holden from NYR for Rob O'Gara and third round pick

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  1. VanIsle

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    Don’t like it, Larry Brooks ripped Holden recently
     
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    Is he better than Grzelyck?
     
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    Interesting , LH D-man with size, adding depth. Wonder what else Sweeney has planned.
     
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    I'm not sure he's better than O'Gara
     
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    I don't think so.
    Plus he's 30 and going to be a UFA
     
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    We have a new no. 8 Dman for a prospect and a pick?
     
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    Well it's better than the 3rd for Rinaldo deal

    But definitely puzzling, I guess Sweeney and co felt Ogara's time was up based on who's coming up behind him, they felt he was easy to part with


    Think this team needs either a guy that can log a ton of minutes though or some tough forwards, not sure this move really helps the team.
     
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    Unless it's somehow a precursor to acquiring another, more coveted, LHD from the rangers, I'm scratching my head a little bit.
     
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    I have no idea who Holden even is personally but were taking a lot of flak on the main board for this trade already. Ranger fans saying they fleeced us. Seems like Sweeney might not really care about those 3rd round picks lol (Rinaldo, Holden)
     
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    Was Greg Zanon not available?
     
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    Seems to have playoff experience. That helps
     
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    Sweeney loves to give away 3rd rounders for junk.

    O'Gara is probably the better player (especially considering age).

    No chance Holden bumps McQuaid or Miller out of #7 and probably struggles to beat Postma out of #8.
     
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    Not happy about this at all
     
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    Nope. I'd rather have OGara over Holden nevermind the third.
     
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    No more space left unless salary goes out
     
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    It's not better than the Rinaldo deal.
     
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    I know NYR's defense is a bit of a dumpster fire, but he's played almost every game, so I'd say he's probably better than Postma. And Miller and McQuaid are both RHD, so competition with them is less. Still, he's probably our #4 LHD, now ahead of Postma. Was that depth worth the price?
     
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    Nothing wrong with this move. Not sure why anyone is puzzled by it.

    Simply put, if injuries occur down the stretch or into the playoffs, the Bruins are better off with Holden as the 4th LD spare than they would be with O'Gara.

    Holden is a 3rd pair D on most teams, he's got almost 400 NHL games under his belt, has averaged 20 mins a game for his career, 19 this season.

    With the emergence of Gryz, and with Zboril and Lauzon soon to be pushing down in Providence, soon to be 25-year old Rob O'Gara didn't appear to have much of a future in Boston.

    A 3rd is a little bit expensive, but we don't know what the market is like for depth LD. Washington gave up a 3rd for Kempny yesterday, so that appears to be the price for 3rd pair/spare LD.

    Given that the UFA rental LD market is pretty darn thin this year (Your looking at older guys like Seidenberg, Gorges, and Oduya), in theory would of raised the price on these types of players. I'd argue of the UFA Rental depth LD, the Bruins might of gotten the best one.
     
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    Sweeney is one of the best GMs in terms of scouting and development and his signings for Pasta and Marchy were prime

    I really don't trust him with trades
     
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    Bruins upgraded their depth on defense with this move. Nothing really to hate about it.
     
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    He's going to get a chance on the 3rd pairing. Grzelyck has slipped recently. And they were always going to pick up insurance on the left side. Suprised they included O'Gara, but they must feel like he's expendable with Grzelyck probably being demoted, so many left handed defenseman.
     
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    Donny maybe just needs to sit in his office a twiddle his fingers. Another stupid move.
     
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    Ranger fan here.

    Holden's a decent bottom pairing defenseman. He has good talent but he has a really low hockey IQ. Does some of everything though (okay defensively, can skate, has good size and can move the puck) and is a valuable bottom pairing defenseman for a playoff team. He can also play left or right.

    Is O'Gara an NHL'er or just a good AHL'er? What is his game like?
     

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