Trade and Free Agent Discussion Thread - 2018/2019 Season v5

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  1. tmlfan98

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    Alex Pietrangelo

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    Nikita Zaitsev
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    2019 lottery protected 1st
    2021 conditional 2nd (becomes a lottery protected 1st if we win a cup by 2020 or re-sign Pietrangelo)


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    Radko Gudas

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    2020 conditional 2nd (becomes a lottery protected 1st if we win a cup by 2020)

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  2. Dreakmur

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    How do you build for the future by acquiring a player who will likely just walk away for nothing in 2 months?
     
  3. Kiwi

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    They could turn around and flip him for future's before the TDL ends, he'd have good value on the market as a rental for a playoff team

    That's a pretty ass eyed way of going about things however
     
  4. DougGilmour93

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    Ya, we’ll if you think acquiring Gardiner at the deadline is going to boost them so much that they be out of the Hughes sweepstakes, I don’t know what to tell you. You’d be vastly overrating him.

    No way anyone thought Philly was going to be the at the bottom of the league this year. This year is obviously a blip. Next year they’ll most likely be in playoff contention.
     
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    Well, the premise would be that he could re-sign...
     
  6. Dreakmur

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    Why give anything up? He can just sign there on July 1.
     
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    The team’s interested in gardiner are playoff bound teams - which is why he’s likely not traded by the Leafs.

    It made more sense to trade JVR last season than Gardiner this year, so I wouldn’t expect him to be moved.
     
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    They’d get first dibs???
     
  9. Dreakmur

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    So they are going to pay premium just to get a head start?
     
  10. DougGilmour93

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    This is all hypothetical you realize right?
     
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    Andy Greene is an interesting target. Would easily solidify our 3rd pairing and possibly even our 2nd.
     
  12. Amadeus

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    We need a replacement for Hainsey.
     
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    Well which is it - is he either good enough for them to consider an asset and long term piece even as a rental on a bottom 5 team (while knowing they can take a shot at him for free in the summer) or is he not good enough to help them win games?

    Seems like it can't really be both here.

    Even if he moves the needle a little, that's a little further away from a better pick and for all of ~20 games of Jake Gardiner.
     
  14. LeafChief

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    Is Jay Bouwmeester of interest to anyone if he could be had cheap? UFA at the end of the season.

    Played on the World Cup team just two seasons ago (for Babs). Is he an upgrade on Hainsey? I know he is a LHD but so is Hainsey.

    Haven't seen him play at all this year so I won't be surprised if people jump down my throat. Just want to hear what others think about this if we aren't able to make a bigger acquisition.
     
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    Cap will go to 83M approx, and that is projecting the NHLPA using some inflator. As a guy who ran multiple Armchair GM scenarios, I can confidently say that what you proposed will

    1. Not get St.Louis to bite
    2. Not work after this season
     
  16. DougGilmour93

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    Well it wouldn’t be for just 20 games if Gardiner, not if the intention was to trade for him so they could have first dibs at signing him to an extension.
     
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    Can't see Philly having any interest in this.
     
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    Yes, but why not consider the other team’s needs when making a proposal?
     
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    He might be our #2.
     
  20. dubplatepressure

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    He would make a good fit IMO.
     
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    So 3 first round picks gone if we win the cup? I get it for pietrangelo, but a conditional 1st for gudas? Add in Simmonds, make the trade a little bigger.
     
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    Jensen and a LW would be my ideal realistic deadline for rentals (Dzingel, Nyquist, Johansson)
     
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    William Nylander for Darnell Nurse? In the last 17 games, Nurse has scored 16 points while playing 25+ a night.
     
  24. LeafsOHLRangers98

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    What would the Blue Jackets want for Boone Jenner as a potential Kadri replacement if we have to use Naz to get a RHD.

    4 years left at $3.75M

    43 GP: 8 goals, 20 points, 87 hits and 52% on the draw.

    Usually good for mid-thirties in points, 200+ hits per season, and good on faceoffs.
     
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    They probably don't want to trade him at all.
     
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