Discussion in 'Toronto Maple Leafs' started by Atomos2, Apr 21, 2021.
I didn’t look at goals against Columbus but Robertson’s goal was smelly.
People like to blame Fred because it is so easy. They don’t like blaming the 40M pop gun offence in last year’s play-ins, as well as in the last 2 win or go home games. Absolute no shows.
Vasi with that crap sv% was the only goalie that lost no.
It's not an either-or question though. Both can be at fault for the series loss
Yeah about the size of the way it is coming off from certain ones yeah. Irrelevant today to me either way. This is a way better constructed team that will compete better now. I’m not worried one bit with both of these guys going in Healthy. It’s positive actually.
I hope Freddy rocks this playoff. I’ll be rubbing it right in too. Ha
An awful lot? I think that is an exaggeration.... 1.84 GAA and .936 SV% would suggest there were not an awful lot of any kind of goals scored against him. Leafs scored ZERO goals twice, why are we not focused on that high powered high priced offence? 10 goals scored in 5 games, how can we pin this one on the goalie?
He really did, I've never seen a poster voluntarily disprove his own bias that completely. It was like having a debate with yourself and losing.
I was thinking the same thing, I bet with the same stats they won those series, meaning if Fred had support from his whimpy skaters, they would have won that series.
Unless Campbell craps the bed , more than once he wont get a chance to rock anything but the chair.
I don’t have a explanation why he interprets everything negative towards Andersen when he’s a numbers guy. He just hates him ha.
There isn’t a goalie in sports that hasn’t let in rough goals. I think objectivity is absent. We lost big deal it was last year is my frame of mind.
I am absolutely comfortable with freddy or Jack any time. I’m not a stats guy,i could see Andersen couldn’t move. He was pooched. Washed up he was not thankfully.
Some just think he is done and no changing their minds.
Oh i think he will and the schedule might have back to backs someone was saying. I have never read that in a article personally. I’m fine with Jack starting. I expect Freddy in games too.
You dont believe me
I think Jack plays well and I would be shocked if they had playoff games on back to back nights. Also I said I wouldn't stop playing soup even if he had a bad game. It would take 2 at least and I don't see that happening.
people that voted for Andersen are sadists
It can both be true that Andersen wasn't the main reason the Leafs lost the CBJ series last year and also that he let in his typical stinker goals like he has done in playoff series past. The GWG in Game 1 and the second goal in Game 5 were both terrible and not atypical of an Andersen playoff performance.
Leafs were shutout in Game 1 and Game 5. No matter what Freddy did they would have lost those games. Your right both statements can be true and probably are.
1 per game in a five game series while facing one of the best if not the best defensive team in the league last year. Going in you know your team is not gonna score as accustomed. And that was proven correct.
Andersen was the third best goalie in that series. Period.
Andersen hasn't earned the game 1 start.
He pronounced himself, ' a great goalie' in an interview recently. He knows what he is worth.
Having two, potentially three starters for a long playoff run is ideal. Goalies are the most important players in the playoffs. Whether it’s Soupy or Freddy, whoever can win the game that night
You just said it yourself the scorers didn't score, as Zeke said Andersen had stats as good as 4 Stanley cup winning goalies, 2 Veznia goalies and 1 Jennings winning goalie. So world class goaltending, but pee week like goal scoring , and the goalie is the guy you target... you got some twisted logic there boss.
What did the coach do to help the team score? What did that $40 million top 4 do to score? Lets talk about the lack of scoring.
So you make excuses for the $40 million x 4 offence, "we knew they were not going to score" , so mulligan for them but you blame Andersen who had perhaps the best stats by a Leaf goalie in what 50 years, he is the reason why the team didn't score? Leafs shut out twice in a 5 game series against the Jackets, the Jackets, we aren't talking the Bruins or Tampa bay... we are talking the Jackets.
The best Tri Goalie system in the league...as you touched on , whoever wins stays in .
Andersen will play the last game of the season I'd imagine, he has lots to prove and i expect him to do well.
Campbell still starts game #1 even if Amdersen posts a shutout, he's a massive reason why we are #1 in the division.
It's not a bad thing to have two good goalies, that depth is amazing for the post season.
I like ripping on Andersen from time to time but I'm a big Jack guy, doesn't mean i don't respect that Andersen has posted some very good numbers for us.
We should be thankful we have both and hopefully they are both healthy come playoffs, but its Campbells net to lose and he'd have to have 2 bad post season games for that to change I'd think.
This post here is an excellent example of how the pro-andersen brigade has no interest in evaluating goaltending, and only cares about bashing the leafs elite talent.
That's all the pro-andersen argument is - a last ditch way to attack the rest of the team, despite all evidence.
How can you even say this as the team got better freddy has gotten worse the stats even show this lol
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