Toronto's Goaltending Dilemma (Who starts in the playoffs?)

[BoredBrandonPridham]

With Bogo on LTIR can we get Freddie into a few games? Or would Hyman have to stay out?

I think jack is the starter. But it would be good to get Freddie into 2-3 of the last few

Hyman would have to stay out unless we waive Rittich and one forward.

 

[Legion34]

Hyman would have to stay out unless we waive Rittich and one forward.

meh I would still do it. Hyman would only have a few games anyway and it’s more important to get Freddie a few games if we ever have any intent on him coming In

 

[BoredBrandonPridham]

meh I would still do it. Hyman would only have a few games anyway and it’s more important to get Freddie a few games if we ever have any intent on him coming In

Sandin would also have to go back to the taxi squad and Hutton fills in for a bit. Which I think may happen any way.

 

[Mats13]

I think Campbell's recent stumble has some people thinking, and rightly so. If you accept Freddy's brutal season was somewhat driven by playing hurt for much of it, he was .936 in the 19-20 play-in and Campbell has never started an NHL playoff game. I went with Campbell because it isn't clear if Andersen will get in any regular season games but JC has to finish strong and that still might not mean he isn't a backup after his first playoff loss. Ideally they have a solid Campbell and a healthy Andy to choose from.

Campbell is 1-1 with .875 and .945 vs Habs this year. Freddie is .909. .920, .943, .875 3-1 vs Habs this year. Its close if they are both healthy.

Picking out sv% from individual games without context is useless

If you really want to cite sv% tho, I suggest you take a look where Andersen stands in the league. He’s been awful for almost two years now. It’s not an injury. His play is just falling off. It sucks, but it is what it is.

Campbell is the better goalie today. So you start him. That simple.

 

[mouser]

With Bogo on LTIR can we get Freddie into a few games? Or would Hyman have to stay out?

I think jack is the starter. But it would be good to get Freddie into 2-3 of the last few

Requires Bogo and Hyman on LTIR, plus two of Brooks, Robertson and Sandin demoted.

 

[mouser]

Hyman would have to stay out unless we waive Rittich and one forward.

Can't demote Rittich, he was on the deadline roster.

 

[Legion34]

Requires Bogo and Hyman on LTIR, plus two of Brooks, Robertson and Sandin demoted.

Hmmm it’s doable I guess.

Bogo is out already.
Hyman is out until about 3 games left best case
Robertson will hopefully be held out to protect his elc
drop Brooks for a week.


I really think getting Freddie in at least 2
Games would be beneficial. Unless he is completely done

 

[ShaneFalco]

Campbell is my starter

 

[slozo]

Picking out sv% from individual games without context is useless

If you really want to cite sv% tho, I suggest you take a look where Andersen stands in the league. He’s been awful for almost two years now. It’s not an injury. His play is just falling off. It sucks, but it is what it is.

Campbell is the better goalie today. So you start him. That simple.

I agree that you need context.
I also feel you really need to have watched a lot of the games as well, to get a feel for how the defence played in front of the goalie, which is really difficult to discern from even the best advanced statistics. And Andy has just been falling off steadily going by eye test . . . it hasn't been dramatic, but the decline definitely became steeper this year.

Making things more complicated was that with a hot Campbell in net, you realised that our D was actually playing really well, we just weren't getting those consistent saves you need from any good NHL starting goalie.

I think Campbell is our guy - but I would also love to have Andy available, as you just never know.

 

[BoredBrandonPridham]

Can't demote Rittich, he was on the deadline roster.

Someone else mentioned this, but cap friendly shows lots of examples of players on deadline roster being demoted. Marincin is one example.

 

[mouser]

Someone else mentioned this, but cap friendly shows lots of examples of players on deadline roster being demoted. Marincin is one example.

Marincin wasn't on the April 12th deadline roster. He was demoted on the 11th and Emergency Recalled on the 13th.

Players who are recalled after the deadline (whether normal recall or emergency recall) can be loaned back.

Also, players who were on Emergency Recall at the time of the deadline can be loaned back afterward as well.

 

[socko]

Campbell is my starter

Of course he is. Campbell is playing as well right now as Andersen ever has in his best seasons. To think it's not Campbell is crazy talk. They do have to decide what they want to do with Andersen though... Is he really healthy? Do they really think his poor play was the result of injury? Do they think he could be better than Rittich in a backup role? Would he even mentally accept a backup role after being the starter here for years? Right now Rittich is my backup, for me I might even go with Hutchinson, but by trading for Rittich I think that battle has already been decided. If Andersen is in the plans, they have to get him in a few games before the playoffs, and that's as a backup not a starter. I fail to see how they could put Andersen in a playoff game when he hasn't played in over a month and was terrible the last time he played.

 

[BoredBrandonPridham]

Marincin wasn't on the April 12th deadline roster. He was demoted on the 11th and Emergency Recalled on the 13th.

Players who are recalled after the deadline (whether normal recall or emergency recall) can be loaned back.

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Ek? Lettieri?

Just starting from A on teams lol.

Edit: misread those as promoted from TS to NHL. Nevermind that.

 

[DarkKnight]

 

[IPS]

Campbell is my starter

Same. Strange how people were so quick to write him off after his slump.

 

[lottster14]

Not set in stone yet. If Campbell struggles in these last games and Andersen is deemed healthy it should be Andersen, if Campbell continues his good bounce back it's easily him.

All I know is this is the easiest route to the semis the Leafs have had in decades and maybe ever again. Take your pick

 

[Marshy]

My prediction:

Game 55 May 12 vs. Ottawa --> Freddy starts and plays 30 minutes / Campbell plays the final 30.

Game 56 May 14 vs. Winnipeg --> Freddy plays the full game - Rittich backs up giving Jack a full game day off.


Game 1 playoffs ... Campbell starts and Freddy backup.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Kind of a dick-ish response

 

[Confucius]

Kind of a dick-ish response

Quite the opposite of what Campbell would say about himself. If only both guys could pass what they are smoking to the other and meet in the middle.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Soupy will start playoffs but having Big Sieve Dave going in as a backup really scares me .. I would rather have Hutch and you know Hutch from last year that says a ton .. so if we can get Freddy into 1 or 2 games at end of year then work da CAP magic baby ... much rather have Freddy as a backup than Hutch

 

[Joey Hoser]

Kind of a dick-ish response

You were average at your best, bud, and that was in 2018.

Never been a fan of Andersen. Never had it out for him though. Always seemed like a nice guy and good pro.

But this comment raises an eyebrow, to say the least. There's confidence in the face of adversity, and then there's flat out saying "I'm great" when you clearly aren't.

 

[TheGreatOne11]

Kind of a dick-ish response

"I know what I'm worth"

Yes so do we, and with a save % of .897.

You're between Scott Wedgwood 700k a year .899 save % and Brian Elliot .896 save % and 1.5 million.

 

[DarkKnight]

An overly confident goalie, hardly a telling moment or odd. I like swagger, now back it up then. Steal the crease Fred. I don’t care who’s in, just do the job.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

If fully healthy, I'd prefer Andersen as the starter.

 

[stickty111]

Freddy needs to realize he hasn't been great for over a year and a half. Nothing wrong with being confident but you need to back it up..