Proposal: Toronto- Arizona

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  1. Avilaj07 Registered User

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    To Toronto-
    Kuemper
    Chercyrun
    Crouse
    Fischer

    To Arizona-
    Andersson
    Nylander
    Dermott
     
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    Nice proposal. The Coyotes would love getting Andy's Contract. Cap hit is 5 mil, but real money paid is only one mil. Don’t know if they would move Chych for Nylander though. The money they save on Andy they lose in that part of the deal.
     
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    Feels like too much cap going to ARI who also have cap issues no?
    What's the cap/cash going in and out for both teams?
     
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    Not necessarily, cap wise Nylander has been paid out quite a bit already considering all the signing bonuses so once again Arizona saves in real money
     
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    Who's Chercyrun? It's Jakob Chychrun.
     
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    Nylander still get 6 mil per year. Chychrun is signed to an excellent deal with lots of term left. Got to believe the Leafs would need to sweeten the deal more to get Chychrun.
     
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    I would love to see Nylander to the Coyotes but too much given up IMO.

    Even if you equate Kuemper + Chychrun to Andersen + Nylander...Coyotes cant give up their two most physical players for a decent 4/5 Dman.
     
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    Can you give one of them for dermott? Crouse for dermott, nylander for Chychruan, Andy for Kuemper
     
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    No interest in moving Chychrun. He should be the least available Coyote.
     
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    I'm good. Don't need low dollar players and Toronto isn't trading Nylander. The only player you guys have that we need is Matthews and he's also not for sale.

    We really can't afford to let go of Chychrun and Crouse either.
     
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    I would think Fischer for Dermott could work. As others have opined, the Coyotes keep Crouse.

    I am tempted by the Chychrun for Nylander swap. Coyotes really need talent up front (and I think Nylander can be the #1 C) but Chychrun is the Coyotes best Dman and one of only 3 signed for any term. Probably a bad idea to move him.

    Kuemper is worth more than Andersen.
     
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    From the sounds of things, you can't afford to pay them either.
     
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    Covid affected a lot of teams, the headlines just look worse because we spent nearly 2 decades without a billion dollar owner. We can pay our team, it's just poorly constructed.
     
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    Coyotes shouldn't trade Chychrun straight up for that package.
     
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    Absolutely not trading Chychrun. Hell no.
     
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    So the answer to that problem if it existed is trading four guys who are outperforming their contracts?
    Seems like an easy pass for Arizona. Chychrun was Arizona's best defenseman for most of the season and is locked down long-term. Most of their D core is expiring after this season. Can't imagine that trading him ever solves any problem.

    In fact this deal would add cap (and probably salary).
     
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    After bonuses are paid out, Nylander and Andersen are due 3.5 million for the two of them for the 20/21 season. Chychrun's contract is backloaded and he makes a hair shy of Nylander + Andersen combined on his own next season, from there he gets paid in the 5s and 6s for the rest of the contract, I think his total remaining money owed is within a few 100k of Nylander's remaining money owed. Kuemper is also backloaded and due 5.5 next year.

    Not that I'd want this deal but it would absolutely be appealing to Arizona financially if we pay their bonuses.
     
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    That sounds like a really fancy way of masking the fact you actually dumped cap and salary on Arizona while downgrading their starter and blueline for a better forward, while subtracting cheap size and grit in Crouse...
     
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    You're really holding into this idea that we need to cut salary. Lose that thought process and you'll see this is a bad deal for Arizona. It meets zero needs.
     
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    Too many moving pieces.
     
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    Chychrun isn't available
     
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    Even though chychrun is lhd, I do this deal in a heartbeat from a leafs pov. Which means it's probably not too stellar for az
     
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    Moaaaarrr LD, TOR needs moooaarr LD
     
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    If this trade happened this off season then Nylander is still owed $20.5 in cash for 4 years, Chychrun is owed $21.7 for 5 years. For the additional $1.2 in actual cash I would rather have the 22 year old #1 Dman locked up for that additional year. I could see interest from both teams in a Kuemper/Andersen trade, but I would rather keep Chychrun if I was Coyote. I think I would rather have Crouse at $1.5 over the next 2 seasons than whatever Dermott is going to get as an RFA.
     

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