Player Discussion Torey Krug V

[TheReal13Linseman]

I mean he is a pending UFA. You are going to get less than say Karlsson got. Hopefully more than Shattenkirk got.

Pending in 20-21. We have time, but I think he’s acquitted himself quite well these playoffs, for both him and us.

 

[Gordon Lightfoot]

I hate typing this, but I'll do it anyway.

It's too easy to toss the puck lightly into his corner and then smash him and take the puck away. He's not big, strong, or fast enough to overcome that game plan.

 

[TheReal13Linseman]

Krug's negatives weigh heavily against his positives. He is perfect #5 dman who plays maybe 15 min even strength a night making 3.8 million a year who can accumulate secondary assist on the PP. Playing him 23 minutes a night 5v5 against heavy teams in the playoffs? No bueno. Even strength he brings nothing. I'm sorry but it's true. And no matter how good he is on the PP it doesn't win you championships.

That’s a really short sell. He’s not a #5 even on our S.C. runner up team. I think we’ll find most GMs in disagreement with you.

 

[TheReal13Linseman]

I hate typing this, but I'll do it anyway.

It's too easy to toss the puck lightly into his corner and then smash him and take the puck away. He's not big, strong, or fast enough to overcome that game plan.

Just like Carlo?

 

[Mainehockey33]

I hate typing this, but I'll do it anyway.

It's too easy to toss the puck lightly into his corner and then smash him and take the puck away. He's not big, strong, or fast enough to overcome that game plan.

Add to that all his cross ice pass giveaways and it’s 2013 all over again.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Krug's negatives weigh heavily against his positives. He is perfect #5 dman who plays maybe 15 min even strength a night making 3.8 million a year who can accumulate secondary assist on the PP. Playing him 23 minutes a night 5v5 against heavy teams in the playoffs? No bueno. Even strength he brings nothing. I'm sorry but it's true. And no matter how good he is on the PP it doesn't win you championships.

The two biggest hits of the Final were by Krug.

 

[Gordon Lightfoot]

Just like Carlo?

I think Carlo does a better job overcoming that. I don't consider myself a Krug hater (quite the opposite) but I do think defensively he's operating from a deficit that can't be fixed.

 

[Smitty93]

I think it all depends on the contract ask. He's a good player, and you'd prefer to keep him, but I wouldn't be comfortable signing him long term at $7 million+. They need to figure out if they can sign him at an acceptable number, and if they can't, then you have to consider trading him. The issue is that the teams interested will be looking to compete next year, so they're not going to want to trade someone off their roster, so you're looking at trading for futures. If I'm trading him, the goal is to get back a top 6 forward in return.

 

[EON]

I think they need to make a decision on Krug this off-season. Trade him now for a top 6 RW and picks/prospects, or re-sign him to an extension on July 1st if it's reasonable. I would not want to go into next season with him as a UFA.

 

[bp13]

I think Carlo does a better job overcoming that. I don't consider myself a Krug hater (quite the opposite) but I do think defensively he's operating from a deficit that can't be fixed.

With you. He's an outstanding offensive defenseman but IMO a weak defensive one. The Bruins just need to ask themselves if it makes sense to pay what they'll need to keep him given wht it means for the rest of the roster, and given the rest of the defensive corps composition.

Honestly, I can see arguments for and against keeping him (assuming his trade value is probably pretty high if moved this summer). It'll be an interesting decision to see. If there was no salary cap he'd be an auto-keep for me. But $7M+ on this current team and in this structure? With potential durability issues? Not so sure.

 

[Jaguar God]

 

[UncleRico]

I think Carlo does a better job overcoming that. I don't consider myself a Krug hater (quite the opposite) but I do think defensively he's operating from a deficit that can't be fixed.

Krugs biggest problem is that the playoffs, especially the Stanley cup finals get officiated differently than the regular season.

So when less penalties are called especially in the blues series krug gets exposed. He had that exceptional 4 point game but at the end The areas he excels in were taken away from him.

 

[TaroTsujimoto]

Worst defender on the ice for 3 games.

Wrong.

 

[TaroTsujimoto]

Krug had an awesome playoffs. Anyone talking about his "negatives" should just shush, because there were no negatives to his game during the playoffs.

I think this board undervalues and takes for granted Krug's skillset, while overvaluing what Carlo brings. I like Carlo, but he is way more replaceable than Krug. Any dummy can ring the puck around the boards, but Krug's confidence, IQ and passing ability are truly special.

 

[PlayMakers]

Agreed with the Krug love. He was an absolute Titan in the playoffs.

I was in the camp that thought it would be smart to move him this summer but now I think they should hang onto him for another playoff run. I still don't know if I would sign him. He's going to be 29 when his next contract kicks in and to keep him out of free agency you'll have to offer 8 years. That means you'll be paying him until he's 37. That's dangerous for any player, let alone a guy who's not blessed with amazing physical tools like size and speed. Still, if he can stay healthy he proved he can be a force and even if you just look at him as an in-house rental it would be worth keeping him for one more year.

 

[BAD BOY]

Sounds like Don Sweeney is gonna pay Krug. I’m optimistic he extends him. 5/30 M is fair for both sides.

 

[PB37]

I posted this in another thread, but we have Krug's raise covered ( in terms of cap hit ) with both Beleskey's and Seidenberg's salary retention and buyout coming off the books a year from now.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

42-45M/6y

Do it Don

 

[BAD BOY]

I posted this in another thread, but we have Krug's raise covered ( in terms of cap hit ) with both Beleskey's and Seidenberg's salary retention and buyout coming off the books a year from now.

The more I think about this, the more I wanna do it. Lol

 

[BAD BOY]

42-45M/6y

Do it Don

I’ll over pay but that much . Lol

42-45M/6y

Do it Don

6/38 M . The deal is he takes a little less .

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

I’ll over pay but that much . Lol


6/38 M . The deal is he takes a little less .

The lower the better. But how is 4-4.5M less than Karlsson a lol?

Get with the program. Elite puck movers are getting paid.

Carlson got 8M last year. You put Krug on the market, he’s easily getting that.

 

[JOKER 192]

40-42M/8Y slight underpay to start , slight overpay to finish. If that doesn't work , maybe a sign and trade or just a straight up trade. No point overpaying a PP specialist if they aren't going to call penalties when it matters most.

 

[BAD BOY]

I wanna lockup..

McAvoy
Carlo
Krug
............

Keep Clifton
Keep Grizz
Play Vak
Keep Z for leadership

Moore , Miller, Kamp. I like , but can do without. If I picked one of the three on standby... Moore

 

[BAD BOY]

The lower the better. But how is 4-4.5M less than Karlsson a lol?

Get with the program. Elite puck movers are getting paid.

Carlson got 8M last year. You put Krug on the market, he’s easily getting that.

True Jean, I know EK got 11M today
I get it. Krug might take a little less. I feel he won’t break the bank if he chooses extension with bruins.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

40-42M/8Y slight underpay to start , slight overpay to finish. If that doesn't work , maybe a sign and trade or just a straight up trade. No point overpaying a PP specialist if they aren't going to call penalties when it matters most.

42M/8y?

Abysmal offer.

You are aware that Petry signed for more than that 5y ago and Crappy Alzner just 0,5M less a couple years ago?

Elite puck movers are getting paid. Krug is one of the best in the game. Anything under 7M is another steal for Sweeney.