Player Discussion Torey Krug V

[JOKER 192]

Unproven prospects can bring huge returns. Just have to give the good ones up. Vegas traded their best prospect D man in the Stone deal. Vakk and Moore would be a decent return. What would you give up?

The Stone deal was an unusual one because the player wanted out of Ottawa and everybody knew it. This considerably jeopardized the negotiations for Ottawa. Branstrom is a very good prospect, so under the circumstances I think Ottawa did well, but he is an unproven player. We don't have anyone at that level.

Tuch is a rare commodity, Power forward right wing, on a good contract for the next 7 years.

The Bruins won't likely be able to afford Krug and a legit RW going forward and they have plenty of LD waiting in line.

I see 5 ON 5 scoring as bigger issue for this team than having one of the top PP's in the league. I think Tuch would help with that and the regression would be minimal as far as the PP goes.

I sign and trade Krug. It would be a good team for him to go to and Tuch would fill a huge whole on this team.

Vegas GM George McPhee is in full win now mode. A PP specialist like Krug could help that team. They also have 2 other top 6 RW's in Stone and Smith so Krug would probably help more than losing Tuch would hurt.

 

[Tbaybruin]

That’s why most of us would love Tuch. But they are deep at RW and need LD. Would you sign Krug they move Grizz and Zaboril for him. Add Senny if needed. I proposed months ago Heinen and a D for Tuch.

 

[Tbaybruin]

The Stone deal was an unusual one because the player wanted out of Ottawa and everybody knew it. This considerably jeopardized the negotiations for Ottawa. Branstrom is a very good prospect, so under the circumstances I think Ottawa did well, but he is an unproven player. We don't have anyone at that level.

Tuch is a rare commodity, Power forward right wing, on a good contract for the next 7 years.

The Bruins won't likely be able to afford Krug and a legit RW going forward and they have plenty of LD waiting in line.

I see 5 ON 5 scoring as bigger issue for this team than having one of the top PP's in the league. I think Tuch would help with that and the regression would be minimal as far as the PP goes.

I sign and trade Krug. It would be a good team for him to go to and Tuch would fill a huge whole on this team.

Vegas GM George McPhee is in full win now mode. A PP specialist like Krug could help that team. They also have 2 other top 6 RW's in Stone and Smith so Krug would probably help more than losing Tuch would hurt.

Grizz and Heinen for Tuch? Then trade for Mikes Wood We would have the size and grit for. 2020 cup. I keep Krug. It think he scores 23 next year. He will have a career year

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Grizz and Heinen for Tuch? Then trade for Mikes Wood We would have the size and grit for. 2020 cup. I keep Krug. It think he scores 23 next year. He will have a career year

What are you trading for miles wood?

 

[Tbaybruin]

What are you trading for miles wood?

Would love to give Zaboril but that isn’t enough. Some NJ fans would take a second rounder. Would love to send Moore. I like Woods more then most here. Wood Coyle Kuhlman would be a fast hard third line

 

[JOKER 192]

Grizz and Heinen for Tuch? Then trade for Mikes Wood We would have the size and grit for. 2020 cup. I keep Krug. It think he scores 23 next year. He will have a career year

That's better though I don't see what interest Vegas would have in those players.

23 goals hun? That's a lot for any Dman in this era. Do you realize no D man has scored more than 20 the last 2 years.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Would love to give Zaboril but that isn’t enough. Some NJ fans would take a second rounder. Would love to send Moore. I like Woods more then most here. Wood Coyle Kuhlman would be a fast hard third line

I would trade a 2nd and a 5th for Woods. Think of
the headshots he could have put on AP in the SCF.

 

[Aussie Bruin]

Why do some people assume that if Krug is offered more money elsewhere he'll simply take it and walk? I may have read him wrong, but to me he just doesn't seem like that kind of guy. He obviously values highly the position and friendships he's developed in Boston and the confidence he has from management and in the roles within the team assigned to him. He's settled and as long as the Bs offer him fair value and term then I believe he'll stay. The question is going to be whether he and Don can come to an agreement over what 'fair' is within the confines of the cap.

If Sweeney can sign him for a suitable deal then he ain't trading him. I just don't see it - Krug is more of a core guy in this squad than is often acknowledged.

 

[Tbaybruin]

That's better though I don't see what interest Vegas would have in those players.

23 goals hun? That's a lot for any Dman in this era. Do you realize no D man has scored more than 20 the last 2 years.

Yes , I know it’s a stretch but if he stays healthy and with that PP I expect huge things

 

[UncleRico]

Why do some people assume that if Krug is offered more money elsewhere he'll simply take it and walk? I may have read him wrong, but to me he just doesn't seem like that kind of guy. He obviously values highly the position and friendships he's developed in Boston and the confidence he has from management and in the roles within the team assigned to him. He's settled and as long as the Bs offer him fair value and term then I believe he'll stay. The question is going to be whether he and Don can come to an agreement over what 'fair' is within the confines of the cap.

If Sweeney can sign him for a suitable deal then he ain't trading him. I just don't see it - Krug is more of a core guy in this squad than is often acknowledged.

Well at this point he’s definitely not getting traded unless the bruins are out of playoff contention at the deadline. Seems like the window to trade him is pretty much gone or at least very small.

Looks more and more like its either extend him or let him walk.

 

[RedeyeRocketeer]

Let's win a cup and let him walk (because he'll be owed more than we can afford).

 

[bob27]

They should easily be able to fit in both Coyle and Krug even if they make big overpayments. Which they won't.

DeBrusk 3x3
Grzelcyk 2.5x2
Krug 7x7
Coyle 5x5

After signing a backup goalie and a couple of 4th liners+7th defenceman, they'd have around 75-77 million cap dollars spent with 23 man roster. The only reason to not sign Coyle and/or Krug is to go hard after someone like Taylor Hall. Otherwise they just end up sitting on huge cap void. Losing Krug just to sign some late-20s top-6 forward to another disastrous UFA deal would suck.

 

[DKH]

They should easily be able to fit in both Coyle and Krug even if they make big overpayments. Which they won't.

DeBrusk 3x3
Grzelcyk 2.5x2
Krug 7x7
Coyle 5x5

After signing a backup goalie and a couple of 4th liners+7th defenceman, they'd have around 75-77 million cap dollars spent with 23 man roster. The only reason to not sign Coyle and/or Krug is to go hard after someone like Taylor Hall. Otherwise they just end up sitting on huge cap void. Losing Krug just to sign some late-20s top-6 forward to another disastrous UFA deal would suck.

If DeBrusk would sign $3 M for 3 years I bet Cam would let you watch a game in their box and even hold the replay clicker if you pushed it

DeBrusk 3/$5.5 M per
Krug 6/$6.75 per
Coyle 6/$6.25 per
Grzelcyk 4/$3.5 per

 

[JoeIsAStud]

If DeBrusk would sign $3 M for 3 years I bet Cam would let you watch a game in their box and even hold the replay clicker if you pushed it

DeBrusk 3/$5.5 M per
Krug 6/$6.75 per
Coyle 6/$6.25 per
Grzelcyk 4/$3.5 per

It's funny because you seem to have the defensemen taking huge home town discounts, while the forwards get absolute top of the market money

I can't give DeBrusk 12% more on a 3 year bridge deal than I did McAvoy. On a 3 year deal I can't get past 4.4 for DeBrusk (sure that changes if he scores 35 goals this year)

Coyle, again I can't get there. Maybe if he has a massive year, but he he has his normal numbers and kicks in 40 points, then I can't go anywhere close to 6.25 million, especially for a really long term. I would be far more worried about that deal than the Krug deal suggested.

Gryz, I guess it depends on home town discount, but I think he gets 3.5 million for 1 year easy in his final RFA season, and the would be UFA after that where someone probably would go 4.5-5 million for him.

Also who gets no trade, ar no movement. Krug would absolutely have a huge no movement to take the big discoutn

 

[NMF]

Time to trade Krug. Great player, but he is going to command a high cap hit and we are dealing from a position of strength. Lauzon is ready to step in. I think him and Carlo would make a great shutdown pair. Move Krug to Winnepeg for Kyle Connor. Winnepeg needs D in a bad way.

Marchy-Bergy-Heinen
Conn0r-Krejci- Pastrnak
Debrusk-Coyle-Backes (Bjork)
Nordstrom- Kuraly- Wagner

Gryz-McAvoy
Lauzon-Carlo
Chara-Clifton

Stanley Cup

 

[ON3M4N]

Time to trade Krug. Great player, but he is going to command a high cap hit and we are dealing from a position of strength. Lauzon is ready to step in. I think him and Carlo would make a great shutdown pair. Move Krug to Winnepeg for Kyle Connor. Winnepeg needs D in a bad way.

Marchy-Bergy-Heinen
Conn0r-Krejci- Pastrnak
Debrusk-Coyle-Backes (Bjork)
Nordstrom- Kuraly- Wagner

Gryz-McAvoy
Lauzon-Carlo
Chara-Clifton

Stanley Cup

Why would WPG do it? Krug is a soon to be UFA, while Connor is a 22yr old 60+ winger under team control for 4 more years. They are not on the cusp of winning a title and would need to overpay Krug to stay with WPG after this season.

 

[NMF]

Why would WPG do it? Krug is a soon to be UFA, while Connor is a 22yr old 60+ winger under team control for 4 more years. They are not on the cusp of winning a title and would need to overpay Krug to stay with WPG after this season.

They are bursting at the seams with NHL wingers. They have such little depth at Defense and maybe losing Big Buff on top of that. They can sign Krug. Their offensive Core is one of the better cores in the NHL, and they are young there. They sure up a few spots defensively and they are right in the hunt for a cup. Heck they have been a favorite to win the past two years. A little retooling on the back end and they are there. I would be willing to add Krug + to get Connor.

 

[DKH]

It's funny because you seem to have the defensemen taking huge home town discounts, while the forwards get absolute top of the market money

I can't give DeBrusk 12% more on a 3 year bridge deal than I did McAvoy. On a 3 year deal I can't get past 4.4 for DeBrusk (sure that changes if he scores 35 goals this year)

Coyle, again I can't get there. Maybe if he has a massive year, but he he has his normal numbers and kicks in 40 points, then I can't go anywhere close to 6.25 million, especially for a really long term. I would be far more worried about that deal than the Krug deal suggested.

Gryz, I guess it depends on home town discount, but I think he gets 3.5 million for 1 year easy in his final RFA season, and the would be UFA after that where someone probably would go 4.5-5 million for him.

Also who gets no trade, ar no movement. Krug would absolutely have a huge no movement to take the big discoutn

I had McAvoy at 3/5.5 to 5.75 M

I over shot

Colin White abc Konecny were RFA
Check what they got

DeBrusk prorated to 33 goals last yr

He gets 33 this year what’s he getting next

I was responding to a post

Personally I worry about him next July

If I had to come up with a number to start after next year I’d go with that

DeBrusk with 27 and then 33 goals is getting paid

Hayes got 7 M

Coyle better 200 foot player

6 M for 27 year old power center - sign me up

 

[neelynugs]

If DeBrusk would sign $3 M for 3 years I bet Cam would let you watch a game in their box and even hold the replay clicker if you pushed it

DeBrusk 3/$5.5 M per
Krug 6/$6.75 per
Coyle 6/$6.25 per
Grzelcyk 4/$3.5 per

danny boy, i love ya like i love anders bjork, but NFW coyle is getting 6.25M a year.
i mean maybe he scores 35 goals this year and then gets that kind of money, but
on a long term deal he fits between 4 and 5 for me. can't be paying the 3C over 6M,
that's the old penguins problem when they had staal.

 

[DKH]

danny boy, i love ya like i love anders bjork, but NFW coyle is getting 6.25M a year.
i mean maybe he scores 35 goals this year and then gets that kind of money, but
on a long term deal he fits between 4 and 5 for me. can't be paying the 3C over 6M,
that's the old penguins problem when they had staal.

We shall see

I got him in our text pools 6/36

He’s all around better than Kevin Hayes

 

[ON3M4N]

They are bursting at the seams with NHL wingers. They have such little depth at Defense and maybe losing Big Buff on top of that. They can sign Krug. Their offensive Core is one of the better cores in the NHL, and they are young there. They sure up a few spots defensively and they are right in the hunt for a cup. Heck they have been a favorite to win the past two years. A little retooling on the back end and they are there. I would be willing to add Krug + to get Connor.

It takes two to tango. What if Krug doesn't want to sign in WPG? You think WPG is trading a 60+ point 22yr old winger without knowing if Krug is going to sign a new contract?

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

danny boy, i love ya like i love anders bjork, but NFW coyle is getting 6.25M a year.
i mean maybe he scores 35 goals this year and then gets that kind of money, but
on a long term deal he fits between 4 and 5 for me. can't be paying the 3C over 6M,
that's the old penguins problem when they had staal.

Agree. No way he gets more than Marchand on this team. He may get his money elsewhere but if he wants to stay in Boston, I see a 30M/6y deal as the most I would go.

Same goes for Krug. He would easily get more than Spurgeon on the UFA market but not from the Bruins.

Both will have to decide what they want. Stay on a perpetual Cup contender in a great city for a little less or take the highest offer and go elsewhere.

 

[Estlin]

It takes two to tango. What if Krug doesn't want to sign in WPG? You think WPG is trading a 60+ point 22yr old winger without knowing if Krug is going to sign a new contract?

Or even allow a trade to the Jets, for that matter. He has a NTC. I somehow doubt that Winnipeg is on the list of teams to which Krug would accept a trade.

 

[ON3M4N]

Agree. No way he gets more than Marchand on this team. He may get his money elsewhere but if he wants to stay in Boston, I see a 30M/6y deal as the most I would go.

Same goes for Krug. He would easily get more than Spurgeon on the UFA market but not from the Bruins.

Both will have to decide what they want. Stay on a perpetual Cup contender in a great city for a little less or take the highest offer and go elsewhere.

Here's the problem with that thinking. Marchand signed that deal when the cap was around $73 million and Marchand hadn't exploded in production yet. Now I'm not saying he should make more than Marchand, but the market is very different than it was back when Marchy signed.

 

[ON3M4N]

Or even allow a trade to the Jets, for that matter. He has a NTC. I somehow doubt that Winnipeg is on the list of teams to which Krug would accept a trade.

I agree, I don't think he'd waive. For this I assumed he'd waive just to humor the idea of him and WPG and why it wouldn't work still.