Player Discussion Torey Krug IV

[Greek_physique]

Unless he asks for too much money, I don't know WHY you'd want to trade him.

IMO, he's the main reason our top PP unit clicks...you take him away, you'll struggle...regardless how good everyone else is.

Also, 5 on 5, while he makes mistakes, he still is our best passer and can carry the puck out of the zone to create offense.

 

[Dueling Banjos]

You win more 1 goal games with Krug's passes on pp than lose em because of his D liability.

 

[Alicat]

Unless he asks for too much money, I don't know WHY you'd want to trade him.

IMO, he's the main reason our top PP unit clicks...you take him away, you'll struggle...regardless how good everyone else is.

Also, 5 on 5, while he makes mistakes, he still is our best passer and can carry the puck out of the zone to create offense.

Grass isn't always greener on the other side.

Gotta take the good with the bad. We are better with him than without.

 

[rocketdan9]

Grass isn't always greener on the other side.

Gotta take the good with the bad. We are better with him than without.

Josh Anderson 4 points last week

two nights ago was scoreless.... no Krug to feast on

I have little confidence in Krug able to handle a big strong team like CBJ or Capitals come playoff time. Also little confidence able to retrieve the puck and make a sound play against fast skating teams like the Leafs and Tampa

Alot of his weaknesses this season has been masked by Brandon Carlo worldly defensive capabilities. No way he can bail him out consistently in a do or die type pressure of the playoffs

 

[Dr Hook]

Grass isn't always greener on the other side.

Gotta take the good with the bad. We are better with him than without.

At this point, we are. I suspect McAvoy is the replacement long-term for the offense, but I don't think he's quite there yet. After next season when Krug's deal expires, it is a conversation the FO is going to have to have. Krug will be 29 and looking for a long-term deal at big money.

 

[Kalus]

Avoid long term deals that extend well into a guys' 30s, but for what it is worth, I see Krug as the type of guy whose play won't drop off as much as most other guys.

His best assets are his offensive zone awareness and his passing. Both of these dont really degrade. He is a minus straight line skater already, he has adapted his game where it doesn't rely on speed.

 

[rocketdan9]

At this point, we are. I suspect McAvoy is the replacement long-term for the offense, but I don't think he's quite there yet. After next season when Krug's deal expires, it is a conversation the FO is going to have to have. Krug will be 29 and looking for a long-term deal at big money.

I doubt it. I think he would take his current salary + another 5 years

But Bruins management is keeping a close eye as to what unravels in the playoffs

If he leads again in the minus category....

lets see what happens and if Carlo can bail him out on the defensive end

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Josh Anderson 4 points last week

two nights ago was scoreless.... no Krug to feast on

I have little confidence in Krug able to handle a big strong team like CBJ or Capitals come playoff time. Also little confidence able to retrieve the puck and make a sound play against fast skating teams like the Leafs and Tampa

Alot of his weaknesses this season has been masked by Brandon Carlo worldly defensive capabilities. No way he can bail him out consistently in a do or die type pressure of the playoffs

Torey Krug: .91 goals against per game
Charlie McAvoy: 1.00 goals against per game

TGF/TGA, Krug is +33
TGF/TGA McAvoy is +13

1 of the above plays with Chara and the Bergeron line, the other is Krug

 

[JRull86]

Josh Anderson 4 points last week

two nights ago was scoreless.... no Krug to feast on

I have little confidence in Krug able to handle a big strong team like CBJ or Capitals come playoff time. Also little confidence able to retrieve the puck and make a sound play against fast skating teams like the Leafs and Tampa

Alot of his weaknesses this season has been masked by Brandon Carlo worldly defensive capabilities. No way he can bail him out consistently in a do or die type pressure of the playoffs

Bolded is cherry picking at it's finest.

Players are allowed to have a poor game.

Also, Krug is the exact type of DMan you want retrieving pucks against a fast team. A guy who can skate and make a good first pass to get it out of the zone.

 

[rocketdan9]

Bolded is cherry picking at it's finest.

Players are allowed to have a poor game.

Also, Krug is the exact type of DMan you want retrieving pucks against a fast team. A guy who can skate and make a good first pass to get it out of the zone.

one game? He also got rocked by the Penguins

-8 in two games.... in a way cost us the two games

look you can't discount the positives he has also done for the team

but at the end of the day, Krug + playoffs ..............its not a comforting feeling

 

[Smitty93]

I doubt it. I think he would take his current salary + another 5 years

But Bruins management is keeping a close eye as to what unravels in the playoffs

If he leads again in the minus category....

lets see what happens and if Carlo can bail him out on the defensive end

You don't think he would want more money?

When he signed his last contract, he had three full seasons under his belt, was averaging 19.5 minutes TOI, and 0.52 points per game. In the three seasons since he signed the contract, his average TOI has increased to 21 minutes and he's averaging 0.73 points per game. Obviously there is more to contract negotiation than those two stats, but I don't think any agent would look at those numbers and not think their client deserves a raise.

 

[bobbyorr04]

but at the end of the day, Krug + playoffs ..............its not a comforting feeling

What concerns me most about Krug is that he's getting manhandled regularly in his own zone and is just not playing effective defense ...and that may cost the Bruins in the playoffs.

 

[JRull86]

one game? He also got rocked by the Penguins

-8 in two games.... in a way cost us the two games

look you can't discount the positives he has also done for the team

but at the end of the day, Krug + playoffs ..............its not a comforting feeling

I'm not discounting his warts, because he does have them.

However, -8 in two games, while awful, is more of a team breakdown than an individual player. Hence why +/- is a poor stat. They played poorly against both teams, even though they made it back into each game at some point.

Let's look at the CBJ game for example, since on the stat sheet, -5 really does jump out at you.

Two of those goals against CBJ that I put squareley on him. The first goal where Anderson just flat out burned him, and the SHG where he had the puck stolen enterting the zone, and Jenner finished it off. No other way around it, especially the SHG.

For the other three?
He got stuck out on the ice with that garbage 3rd line and Kampfer, took his assignment out of the play, and Kampfer did absolutely nothing to prevent Dzingel from getting 3 attempts from the crease before scoring.

On the Duchene goal, Krug is watching Dzingel while he is set up behind the net, taking away half of his options to pass, and the other 4 guys on the ice let Duchene skate directly into the slot and bury it.

Last -1 was the ENG when down by two.

For posterity, prior to the last two disasters...
Previous 10 games: 1G 6A +5
Previous 20 games: 1G 15A +10

They are absolutely still a better team with him on it, than not there.

 

[rocketdan9]

What concerns me most about Krug is that he's getting manhandled regularly in his own zone and is just not playing effective defense ...and that may cost the Bruins in the playoffs.

do you feel the same about Grz? because I don't

So it's not just about size

 

[UncleRico]

Torey Krug: .91 goals against per game
Charlie McAvoy: 1.00 goals against per game

TGF/TGA, Krug is +33
TGF/TGA McAvoy is +13

1 of the above plays with Chara and the Bergeron line, the other is Krug

One of them plays against opposing teams top lines almost on an exclusive basis (mcavoy)

The other plays against opposing teams 3rd and 4th lines and faces much weaker quality of opponents on a regular basis

 

[Dr Hook]

do you feel the same about Grz? because I don't

So it's not just about size

Gryz is a totally different player. He came into the team already able to play sound positional defense and has only improved. That has never been Krug's strong point. Gryz is not only a better defender, but a better skater, especially in tight, and imo has a much higher hockey IQ in the defensive zone.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

What's the importance of this?

 

[bobbyorr04]

do you feel the same about Grz? because I don't

So it's not just about size

No, Griz does not scare me in the defensive zone like Krug does...

 

[ChargersRookie]

What are Krug's minutes per game? I would knock off 2 minutes or leave his troubles on the coaching staff.

 

[JRull86]

What are Krug's minutes per game? I would knock off 2 minutes or leave his troubles on the coaching staff.

He typically plays 20+ a night, closer to 21.

 

[rocketdan9]

What are Krug's minutes per game? I would knock off 2 minutes or leave his troubles on the coaching staff.

that would mean to drop him to 3rd line pairing (logical)

but he needs to be paired with our best right handed stay at home D at the moment (Carlo) , who is no doubt a top 4 D

 

[bobbyorr04]

Grass isn't always greener on the other side.

Gotta take the good with the bad. We are better with him than without.

I'm not so sure about this anymore....especially in the playoffs

Although Krug can be a definite asset to the offense, I've lost faith in his ability to play solid defense

 

[GordonHowe]

At this point, we are. I suspect McAvoy is the replacement long-term for the offense, but I don't think he's quite there yet. After next season when Krug's deal expires, it is a conversation the FO is going to have to have. Krug will be 29 and looking for a long-term deal at big money.

I've always liked Torey as a player for several reasons. I'm a bit surprised that he continues to experience defensive lapses, because he's a hard working, thoughtful and competitive guy.

If it's true his contract is up next season at the age of 29, I say, "Perfect." Let's see what he does in the playoffs, and how he plays next year.

And, Haggs had a point. If the Bruins play better defense when Krug is out, while continuing good to very good play on the power play & at full strength, a trade is worth considering. I understand his gift as a PP specialist, and all the rest he brings.

Let's see how Torey plays going forward. If his stock remains high at 29, and the B's remain sound defensively when he's not on the ice, a deal might make sense.

 

[TCB]

I've always liked Torey as a player for several reasons. I'm a bit surprised that he continues to experience defensive lapses, because he's a hard working, thoughtful and competitive guy.

If it's true his contract is up next season at the age of 29, I say, "Perfect." Let's see what he does in the playoffs, and how he plays next year.

And, Haggs had a point. If the Bruins play better defense when Krug is out, while continuing good to very good play on the power play & at full strength, a trade is worth considering. I understand his gift as a PP specialist, and all the rest he brings.

Let's see how Torey plays going forward. If his stock remains high at 29, and the B's remain sound defensively when he's not on the ice, a deal might make sense.

A deal does make sense. The Bruins are very deep on defense and Krug has one more year left and will be looking for a substantial raise. Krug is a great offensive defenseman and can bring a hefty return and with the Bruins depth behind their blue-line, there will be no- better time than this summer to deal him for a to p six forward or a true shut-down left -d-man, or a very high draft pick.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

Bruins won the last 3 games without Krug.

He’s useless. Trade him for the best pick you can get and go with Kampfer.