Player Discussion Torey Krug IV

[Chief Nine]

Nope, I don’t think anyone is saying he’s a bad offensive defenseman.

And I’m not saying he’s a shutdown D either and I don’t think anyone else here is. But he’s certainly not horrible

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

The flaw I see in here is the big assumption that the Bruins want to move on from him.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

And I’m not saying he’s a shutdown D either and I don’t think anyone else here is. But he’s certainly not horrible[/QUOTE]

Oh yes he is

 

[OV]

I'd feel like the Bruins paid an awful lot to move up. I think that would be a lot to pay, unless it's moving into the top 2-4. Still a lot to pay I think.

Well whatever the mechanics and pieces involved...as I said...I had it in the
back of my mind that the Bruins fought pretty hard to retain a 27 to 30 overall
pick.

 

[Chief Nine]

By what standard? You keep posting absolutes without anything to back up what you’re saying. This thread is littered with stats that show that Tory Krug isn’t a even bad defenseman never mind a horrible one.

Does he make mistakes?

Yes.

Was he bad last night?

Yes.

He might be hurt, he might be tired or he may have had a crap game and that’s that.

If he’s so bad how come this thread as been as silent as a tomb for the past few weeks? He has a bad game and all of a sudden he’s the worst defenseman in the NHL again

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Krug is not “horrible”

To state so is being stubborn for some reason that you don’t like the player.

 

[Chief Nine]

Krug is not “horrible”

To state so is being stubborn for some reason that you don’t like the player.

And this is why I posted this earlier:

Serious question:

Why do posters have whipping boys?

I really don't get it. Players who play for the team I root for get my support good or bad. Yes, they can and should be criticized when warranted (to a degree) and analyzed etc. but why do posters feel the need to absolutely trash players like Krug and Rask?

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Calling Torey Krug horrible is just that...... horrible

 

[mjhfb]

It bothers me when any NHL player is called "horrible". An NHL player called "horrible" was in most cases the phenom/best player on their team/school/area for most of their life. The kid everyone bragged about, and the scouts noticed. I guess you can say they are "horrible" at the NHL level, but it's inaccurate to say they are horrible hockey players.

 

[Otherworld]

The other thing that has to pointed out here is the bigger picture. The Bruins just came off a looong points streak where there was not much complaining about anything really.

Now we are in the home stretch of the regular season where teams are vying for playoff spots. Essentially some of the teams we have played, ( Pens and Blue Jackets) are already playing playoff hockey.

Couple this with our very slows starts recently and is it any wonder what happened in Pittsburgh and Columbus???

Krug is bearing the brunt of this but this is really on the entire team (except Rask) and Cassidy is it not?

 

[Mainehockey33]

It bothers me when any NHL player is called "horrible". An NHL player called "horrible" was in most cases the phenom/best player on their team/school/area for most of their life. The kid everyone bragged about, and the scouts noticed. I guess you can say they are "horrible" at the NHL level, but it's inaccurate to say they are horrible hockey players.

It's relative though. If I call Chara a below average skater, I'm not comparing him to everyone that skates.

It's like when an announcer calls a player a good skater. Obviously you have to be good at skating to even make the NHL so technically they're all good skaters lol

 

[Number8]

And I’m not saying he’s a shutdown D either and I don’t think anyone else here is. But he’s certainly not horrible

Exactly. Everyone knows Krug is an Offensive D-Man (thank God -- we need the points from the blueline). His defensive game has some challenges. However, any Bruins fan who says he's horrible isn't worth the time to read what they post.

Horrible, my ass.

Whenever people speak in absolutes (except when it's to say that Bergeron is awesome) I typically ignore. Very few if any NHL players are horrible or suck. And as you say, Krug most certainly isn't one of them.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Exactly. Everyone knows Krug is an Offensive D-Man (thank God -- we need the points from the blueline). His defensive game has some challenges. However, any Bruins fan who says he's horrible isn't worth the time to read what they post.

Horrible, my ass.

Whenever people speak in absolutes (except when it's to say that Bergeron is awesome) I typically ignore. Very few if any NHL players are horrible or suck. And as you say, Krug most certainly isn't one of them.

Horrible should be reserved for the Beleskeys and Hayes.

 

[compan]

My issue with Krug is there hasn't really been much improvement at all in his defense game. He consistently generates some bad turnovers or defensive gaffs and there doesn't seem to be much improvement in places other than offense.

 

[rocketdan9]

My issue with Krug is there hasn't really been much improvement at all in his defense game. He consistently generates some bad turnovers or defensive gaffs and there doesn't seem to be much improvement in places other than offense.

His conditioning and skating seems like it hasn't transformed in the last 4 years.
This would have been a perfect season to experiment with his body

maybe lose 5-7 pounds and see if that even helps with his skating speed a little. Cam talked about this in the offseason (needs to work on skating/pick up some speed)

 

[Mainehockey33]

His conditioning and skating seems like it hasn't transformed in the last 4 years.
This would have been a perfect season to experiment with his body

maybe lose 5-7 pounds and see if that even helps with his skating speed a little. Cam talked about this in the offseason (needs to work on skating/pick up some speed)

I wish he was more explosive in the defensive zone, it would help him separate from fore-checkers. If he had Grizz's skating he wouldn't have as many problems defensively.

 

[rocketdan9]

I wish he was more explosive in the defensive zone, it would help him separate from fore-checkers. If he had Grizz's skating he wouldn't have as many problems defensively.

wishful thinking.... if he was just a step quicker than he is now, it would help

Krug and John Michael-liles (a few seasons ago) were the last of these shorter, not swift skating, offensive capable Ds left in the league (grandfathered)

these days if you are 5'11 and shorter D, it is a bare minimum that good skating is required. Grz, Brannstrom come to mind

 

[Mainehockey33]

wishful thinking.... if he was just a step quicker than he is now, it would help

Krug and John Michael-liles (a few seasons ago) were the last of these shorter, not swift skating, offensive capable Ds left in the league (grandfathered)

these days if you are 5'11 and shorter D, it is a bare minimum that good skating is required. Grz, Brannstrom come to mind

Krug is in a different league offensively than JML. Krug's game in the offensive zone sets him apart from most defensemen I can think of in the last decade. Even Karlsson might not be as good on the PP as Krug (I'd say his transition game is better though). Krug is unique in how good he is in one zone. He sometimes makes brilliant transition plays, but he makes most of his hay in the O-zone.

He get's outmuscled on defense and that will happen with a defenseman of his size, but his skating doesn't mask that problem like it does for Grizz.

 

[Mick Riddleton]

The GDT board rips Krug like no other guy. They would have traded him if Mac took over the PP and scoring but he has not and Grizz has not either. Should be interesting what happens next year on dee

 

[member 96824]

What the f*** is going on in here

 

[Dr Hook]

What the **** is going on in here

Two ugly losses and the torches and pitchforks come out looking for a victim. Krugenstein's monster.

 

[easton117]

Two ugly losses and the torches and pitchforks come out looking for a victim. Krugenstein's monster.

In fairness he’s been a standout on the awful scale. Can’t hide it like a forward either of which there were a few standouts there too.

I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and believe he’s hurt. Or possibly has the poops.
You can’t play with those. One innoprtune side step and whoops!

Just lose the turnovers before the playoffs start. That’s all I ask. High and hard off the glass Torey. The Pat Burns breakout.

 

[Gee Wally]

What the **** is going on in here

 

[compan]

Two ugly losses and the torches and pitchforks come out looking for a victim. Krugenstein's monster.

Let's not pretend this criticism hasn't been there for the last couple seasons. His defensive play is in fact his weakness. Nobody is saying he isn't a good PP QB or good offensive player (that I know of). But let's not hide behind the fact that because he adds points to the board that we can overlook consistent flaws in his defensive play considering he is a defenseman.

 

[Over the volcano]

And I’m not saying he’s a shutdown D either and I don’t think anyone else here is. But he’s certainly not horrible

If he were 4 inches taller and drafted no one would really be complaining about his defensive game.