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john gatti....**** you Dubas!!!! **** you Auston!!!
I hope you both get boooed out of the building tomorrow
john gatti....**** you Dubas!!!! **** you Auston!!!
I hope you both get boooed out of the building tomorrow
Fair enough and you're right. He took money for sure as the rest of the kids seem set out to do. It's a shame.
Agree. Too much money. Having said that, in 3 years, the Cap will have risen to the point where no one cares.Too much money.
I've lost some respect for Matthews today.
His priority is money over success.
from now on I shall refer to him as Dumbas, and he shall have earned it.i would have liked, our general manager to sign a deal that benefits the team. i don't see how cutting 3 years off a deal benefits us, and I don't see how matthews making that much money for less years benefits us. I don't understand why everything has to be black and white. there is a whole sea of gray to muddle through.
I am happy we have terrific players.
i'm not happy that Dubas seems to do whatever he is doing cap wise with them.
i don't understand why a lot of people always feel that we should just ignore there could be a potential salary cap situation that can prevent us from winning. long term as if you can't think about that - while being happy that we have a good team.
What is shameful about it?
I keep reading this, but it doesn't make sense. He didn't sign for 8 years, so you don't get the backend benefit of him outliving his high cap. Look at when guys like Eichel and McDavid end their contracts and compare it to Matthews vs. their cap hits.Agree. Too much money. Having said that, in 3 years, the Cap will have risen to the point where no one cares.
Not sure I understand the "respect" comment.
Would you work for less than you are worth on the open market?
Thank you for your service.
But to lose respect over a guy making money on his God given talent seems a bit harsh.
Very mildly annoyed at the whole situation. Young guys saying how much they like it in TO, how good the team is, that they want to keep the core together and bringing a Cup here is their dream. Management facilitates that with a $77M contract for John Tavares. Nylander squeezes them literally as hard as possible. Matthews pushes for UFA value on an RFA contract, makes zero concessions to the team. Now Marner and his family say he's worth every cent Matthews got. Christ.
Me too. Way too many cheerleaders.I really hate our fanbase.
Fair enough and you're right. He took money for sure as the rest of the kids seem set out to do. It's a shame.
Bad deal. Not horrible, but looking at comparables in Eichel and McDavid this is bad.
Pay insane AAV AND get only 5 years AND 93% of the $$ is bonus.
As someone else has said what exactly did Dubas negotiate?
At that AAV it should have been 7 at least.
He is not better than/equal to McDavid when you compare the accolades.
Don’t hold your breath. We signed Willi to above Pasta money, but he is no pasta. We signed Matthews to above McDavid money if you consider term and Ufa/rfa years. We will sign Marner to above Kucherov money too, I’m sure now. And he is not Kucherov either. Get this one fact, you cannot pay lesser players higher cap dollars and expect to beat those teams in competition. You just cannot. They would have better players AND more resources to sign support players / td help. And they will beat you every single time. Got it?This is a great deal now that I’ve thought about it more, people are going to start noticing that 8 year contracts will become less common in favour for 5-6 year terms, teams are getting smarter with locking things in for too long.
Leafs will be remembered as the first team to start this trend of responsibility and smarts.
Marner will get 5-6 years too and it will be OKAY, let’s not stress and enjoy this group for the next 5-6 years because special things could happen.
We should have given Lou one more year to get all the contracts done.
Shanny you done goofed.
I know 'youth of today' are changing and the world is a very different place from even 5, 10yrs ago.
Just a shame isn't it.
yea your cap% math and CF% hard ons are world renouned that have ZERO context
Last I saw "point totals" means your team scored; and that in my book is always a good thing
Don’t hold your breath. We signed Willi to above Pasta money, but he is no pasta. We signed Matthews to above McDavid money if you consider term and Ufa/rfa years. We will sign Marner to above Kucherov money too, I’m sure now. And he is not Kucherov either. Get this one fact, you cannot pay lesser players higher cap dollars and expect to beat those teams in competition. You just cannot. They would have better players AND more resources to sign support players / td help. And they will beat you every single time. Got it?
Maybe not shameful but not good for the city and the fans. Dubas just couldn't keep order in the cap structure, he didn't have the ability to fight the league changes etc. He just bent over the barrel and that was it.
Agree. Too much money. Having said that, in 3 years, the Cap will have risen to the point where no one cares.
Not sure I understand the "respect" comment.
Would you work for less than you are worth on the open market?
At what point can a player ask for more than McDavid makes?
How long should his contract hold everyone down?
total points are the definition of NO CONTEXT.
adjusting for game situation, ice time, competition, point type, etc is the definition of CONTEXT.
luckily, this is something our GM understands.