Confirmed with Link: TOR sign Filip Kral & Kristians Rubins to ELC’s

Kiwi

Registered User
Mar 5, 2016
21,044
15,982
The Naki
Duszak is AHL Jake Gardiner except he makes me pull my hair out less.

And I still say Kivihalme is not worth it. He can surprise me, but I just compare him to where Rosen and Holl were at 24, and he is far behind them. Considering we will already have a defense which looks as though it will have at least 5 defensemen who are 23 or under and at least 4 or 5 guys who look like they will be puck movers who could challenge for PP time next year. I would rather invest the contract in a higher quality NHL/AHL tweener who can play PK, may be another good insurance option in the NHL, and can be a good mentor/facilitator for the many young defensemen on the Marlies next year... Especially when guys like Duszak and Hollowell (one of which will likely be Kivihalme's or the vet's partner) need a ton of work on their defensive game. Kivihalme is far from an ideal fit for that kind of role, and does not have the upside necessary to make an exception to keep him.

But I know I am in the minority when it comes to Kivihalme.

Less? Duszak makes Gardiner look like a Norris candidate, I enjoy the entertainment but he's a rollercoaster

It's a fair enough option, I think he's got some talent and I liked his game as the season progressed so I'd persevere for another season before I'd cut bait but if we dump him i wouldn't lose my mind over it

I still see enough upside/tools to keep me interested
 
  • Like
Reactions: stickty111

Kiwi

Registered User
Mar 5, 2016
21,044
15,982
The Naki
Can't disagree with that. Whatever the roster is, Moore needs to make it work. You know how much this organization values AHL playoff hockey for prospects, so they probably weren't happy with what they say after Moore came in.

I didn't like the meltdown from Moore as the season started spiralling, you need to be bloody careful when you start attacking your players in public and I thought he pushed the boundaries of that

They must of liked what they saw before Moore was hired but they need to have a sit down with him because we don't need a repeat of that imo
 

stickty111

Registered User
Jan 23, 2017
26,608
32,895
I didn't like the meltdown from Moore as the season started spiralling, you need to be bloody careful when you start attacking your players in public and I thought he pushed the boundaries of that

They must of liked what they saw before Moore was hired but they need to have a sit down with him because we don't need a repeat of that imo
Sounded like something Torts would do before. That was awful. There is a difference between criticizing your team to the media, and pretty much insulting them.
Moore likely only gets half the season if things don't turn around.
 
  • Like
Reactions: kb and Kiwi

SeaOfBlue

The Passion That Unites Us All
Aug 1, 2013
35,591
16,773
Less? Duszak makes Gardiner look like a Norris candidate, I enjoy the entertainment but he's a rollercoaster

It's a fair enough option, I think he's got some talent and I liked his game as the season progressed so I'd persevere for another season before I'd cut bait but if we dump him i wouldn't lose my mind over it

I still see enough upside/tools to keep me interested

Well I watched Gardiner a lot more than Duszak so it could just be representation bias. I mean Moore made that team more or less unbearable to watch. I just started watching individual players and noticing who stood out (in both a good or bad way vs. the rest of the team). Maybe Duszak did not look as bad because the entire team looked terrible.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Kiwi

Kiwi

Registered User
Mar 5, 2016
21,044
15,982
The Naki
Sounded like something Torts would do before. That was awful. There is a difference between criticizing your team to the media, and pretty much insulting them.
Moore likely only gets half the season if things don't turn around.

It got excessive, I can understand trying to wake the guys up but incessantly attacking your players to the media gets very old very quickly, there are other ways to motivate players besides that

Well I watched Gardiner a lot more than Duszak so it could just be representation bias. I mean Moore made that team more or less unbearable to watch. I just started watching individual players and noticing who stood out (in both a good or bad way vs. the rest of the team). Maybe Duszak did not look as bad because the entire team looked terrible.

The things Duszak does well are very noticeable, so was the stuff I wasn't so keen on :laugh:, his defensive game is rugged

Gardiner was flighty but was also underappreciated for the things that helped defensively he did do well
 
  • Like
Reactions: stickty111

Canada4Gold

Registered User
Dec 22, 2010
42,995
9,189
Little surprised on Rubins, but I'm really glad we signed Kral after the report he was going to the Czech League. Hopefully that was just leverage and he's going to play with the Marlies and not a loan over there. We need some LD depth on the Marlies which was a big reason I was really hoping they would sign him in addition to thinking he has NHL upside.
 
  • Like
Reactions: stickty111

Duke16

Registered User
Apr 14, 2015
4,796
1,730
Ontario
I imagine they sign two, and then non-tender/trade Kivihalme.

Rosen/Marincin-Lindgren
UFA-Duszak
Rubins-Hollowell
Kral-UFA

On top of bringing in another Kapla (or re-signing him) and potentially looking at some of the other younger AHL contract options out there. I would also still look at Josh Maniscalco and see if we can convince him to come in. I would make room on the Marlies just to fit him in, even if it means trading one of those prospects. I can actually see the Leafs trading a guy like Lindgren as a prospect addition in one of their offseason trades since he likely won't have a spot by the time he is ready.


I saw today Kawaguchi is returning too. That pretty much closes the NCAA market from an ELC standpoint for me.
 

Stephen

Moderator
Feb 28, 2002
78,417
52,615


Kral weaves through traffic like an Original Six era player. The combination of smoothness, twisting action, not particularly explosive, one handed stickhandling and heads up play is really usual and retro.

Anyway, good housekeeping moves to keep the development system running. Solid.
 

stickty111

Registered User
Jan 23, 2017
26,608
32,895
Kral weaves through traffic like an Original Six era player. The combination of smoothness, twisting action, not particularly explosive, one handed stickhandling and heads up play is really usual and retro.

Anyway, good housekeeping moves to keep the development system running. Solid.
Thats an interesting description:laugh:
 

The Nic

Registered User
Jul 26, 2009
989
284
I imagine they sign two, and then non-tender/trade Kivihalme.

Rosen/Marincin-Lindgren
UFA-Duszak
Rubins-Hollowell
Kral-UFA

On top of bringing in another Kapla (or re-signing him) and potentially looking at some of the other younger AHL contract options out there. I would also still look at Josh Maniscalco and see if we can convince him to come in. I would make room on the Marlies just to fit him in, even if it means trading one of those prospects. I can actually see the Leafs trading a guy like Lindgren as a prospect addition in one of their offseason trades since he likely won't have a spot by the time he is ready.
Man... you are relentless...
 

Gabriel426

Registered User
Jun 30, 2015
16,571
10,188
Rubins is a big guy. Can he play though? Have not really watch the Marlies.
 

deletethis

Registered User
Mar 17, 2015
7,910
2,486
Toronto
Rubins is going to be a modest player but I could see a more cerebral, less panicked version of Marty Marincin. That wouldn't be too bad.

Kral doesn't quite have that effortless escapability Tomas Kaberle had at 20 but he's got 3 years to develop his pro legs to create some space to flourish for that unflappability we saw in those highlight videos.
 

The Iceman

Registered User
Sep 22, 2007
5,076
3,709
As Babs would say about Rubins "He is 1.93 metres everyday"
or maybe he would say 6'4" and 221 lbs everyday
 
  • Like
Reactions: aingefan

SprDaVE

Moderator
Sep 20, 2008
51,858
33,059
This is good. I think Rubins has some potential to be a solid depth NHL defenseman and Kral should be at least an interesting AHL player.

This probably means Stotts won't be signed though, which is not a big deal.
 

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Ad