Proposal: TOR-NYR

[Tanknation]

Kerfoot, Woll for Georgiev/Shestyorkin, Strome @50%

Leafs get a competent backup, and a rental 3C.

Rangers get a 3C with term to replace Strome and a younger goalie with pedigree.

Never change leaf fans ...sigh

 

[Morgs]

More importantly, why are you offering your opinion on a team you don't watch?

Because eye test equals bias and numbers don't?

Show me one thing I said that wasn't true. Are you guys not the 10th worst team since 2008 in xGF%? Are you not the worst by xGA/60 in that same time?

 

[Kupo]

Because eye test equals bias and numbers don't?

Show me one thing I said that wasn't true. Are you guys not the 10th worst team since 2008 in xGF%? Are you not the worst by xGA/60 in that same time?

You were arguing Kerfoots value in comparison to Strome and Georgiev’s. The discussion here are the players, not the team’s advanced analytics.

Not sure where the hell you’re attempting to take this conversation to.

And yes, the eye test still does matter in the real world.

 

[Gardner McKay]

While this particular offer doesn't move the needle for me, I can already sense that Rangers fans are going to overestimate the value of goaltenders just like they did with Talbot. We ended up getting belly button lint for Talbot.

If we ended up with a low 1st or something of equivalent value for Georgiev, I'd throw a party.

While I would agree that is the case, I think the issue with this particular proposal is because it is a downgrade at both positions AND we are retaining on Strome (IDC if he is a RFA at the end of the year or not).

 

[Machinehead]

While I would agree that is the case, I think the issue with this particular proposal is because it is a downgrade at both positions AND we are retaining on Strome (IDC if he is a RFA at the end of the year or not).

Oh yeah, for sure.

 

[Magic Man]

While I would agree that is the case, I think the issue with this particular proposal is because it is a downgrade at both positions AND we are retaining on Strome (IDC if he is a RFA at the end of the year or not).

Sample size of Strome being good is small.

 

[DutchNYR]

Sample size of Strome being good is small.

40 points in his last 50 games...

 

[Magic Man]

40 points in his last 50 games...

28 to 35 points per season scored the past 4 seasons before this one. Kerfoot scored 40-45 points each of his last two seasons. Strome has had a hot start with big minutes on a team without much depth. I wouldn't crown him just yet, last time that happened was 5 years ago when he scored 50 points. No one has seen a total like that from him since and the season is still young.

 

[DutchNYR]

28 to 35 points per season scored the past 4 seasons before this one. Kerfoot scored 40-45 points each of his last two seasons. Strome has had a hot start with big minutes on a team without much depth. I wouldn't crown him just yet, last time that happened was 5 years ago when he scored 50 points. No one has seen a total like that from him since and the season is still young.

Oh yeah, I get that, but for all the sh*t he has been given, he has been doing pretty well since joining the Rangers. He's not a .ppg player by any means, but the usual suspects (read: Leafs fans) are talking out of that place the sun doesn't shine, once again.

 

[slg1963]

Kerfoot, Woll for Georgiev/Shestyorkin, Strome @50%

Leafs get a competent backup, and a rental 3C.

Rangers get a 3C with term to replace Strome and a younger goalie with pedigree.

Strome, Georgiev and Howden for Nylander, there fixed it for ya.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Sample size of Strome being good is small.

No, it really isn't. Dating back to juniors Strome has always produced. He put up 50 points in 81 games for the Islanders in 2014 - 2015. He was above .5 points per game with us last year and frankly, prior to this year Edmonton has been where players careers go to die.

It isn't like we are talking about a guy that has always lacked offensive talent and is finally breaking out. The talent has been there for Strome.

 

[landeskog11]

if anyone watched that game vs tampa bay Georgiev looked a lot like Hutchinson, tampa won 9-3, hard pass

 

[Shootertooter]

28 to 35 points per season scored the past 4 seasons before this one. Kerfoot scored 40-45 points each of his last two seasons. Strome has had a hot start with big minutes on a team without much depth. I wouldn't crown him just yet, last time that happened was 5 years ago when he scored 50 points. No one has seen a total like that from him since and the season is still young.

Strome is being given minutes and producing......isn't that the definition of what a teams hopes their players do?

 

[Shootertooter]

Strome, Georgiev and Howden for Nylander, there fixed for ya.

Nylander's cap hit is about 7M, not sure the Rangers can make this trade without cap evening out.
Maybe Kreider+ goes back in return?

 

[Shootertooter]

if anyone watched that game vs tampa bay Georgiev looked a lot like Hutchinson, tampa won 9-3, hard pass

He was pulled after 4 or 5.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

if anyone watched that game vs tampa bay Georgiev looked a lot like Hutchinson, tampa won 9-3, hard pass

A true indication of how he has played. Well done.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

if anyone watched that game vs tampa bay Georgiev looked a lot like Hutchinson, tampa won 9-3, hard pass

That bum piece of shit Patty Roy was dumped for a conditional 7th bc of one game.

Did you see what hasek did on 11/4/01?

LOL .643 Sv%? Joke player. Never had a good game again. Certainly didn't have 2 shutouts in a row later that year and damn sure didn't pitch 6 shutouts in that years playoffs in his way to a cup win

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Oh yeah, I get that, but for all the sh*t he has been given, he has been doing pretty well since joining the Rangers. He's not a .ppg player by any means, but the usual suspects (read: Leafs fans) are talking out of that place the sun doesn't shine, once again.

Good reminder. I always forget that only Leafs fans are dumb around here. For a second there I thought we could have a reasonable debate.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Oh yeah, I get that, but for all the sh*t he has been given, he has been doing pretty well since joining the Rangers. He's not a .ppg player by any means, but the usual suspects (read: Leafs fans) are talking out of that place the sun doesn't shine, once again.

HF NYR has some of the most consistently stupid posters on HF. On the whole we compound it with completely unearned arrogance

Tor fans apologized for the crap ass takes of some of their fellow fans.

So this comment warrants you apologizing

 

[slg1963]

Nylander's cap hit is about 7M, not sure the Rangers can make this trade without cap evening out.
Maybe Kreider+ goes back in return?

I was only messing with the original proposal, but I would do Kreider and Georgie for Nylander.

 

[Shootertooter]

I was only messing with the original proposal, but I would do Kreider and Georgie for Nylander.

TML would need another player/pick going back to them in the case Kreider dies not re sign with them.

 

[Menzinger]

Strome, Georgiev and Howden for Nylander, there fixed for ya.

Leafs dont have any motivation to flip Nylander for a package

 

[TGWL]

28 to 35 points per season scored the past 4 seasons before this one. Kerfoot scored 40-45 points each of his last two seasons. Strome has had a hot start with big minutes on a team without much depth. I wouldn't crown him just yet, last time that happened was 5 years ago when he scored 50 points. No one has seen a total like that from him since and the season is still young.

But like you said, he did put up 50 points in his first full season. So, it's not like he hasn't done it before.

 

[Magic Man]

But like you said, he did put up 50 points in his first full season. So, it's not like he hasn't done it before.

I like the player and think he can do it. I think he's been an underachiever thus far, even if he doesn't, he's a good 3rd line center. I think just based on resumes to claim him the better player when compared with Kerfoot given his inability to produce a high level of points for a long time is a minor stretch. If he does it this year, everyone will look at him differently.

 

[Ken Lund]

TML would need another player/pick going back to them in the case Kreider dies not re sign with them.

Wait, you think Kreider might die if he goes to the Leafs?