HoweHullOrr
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We need some solid blue liners, but Weber is not the answer for us with his contract. Wonder if there will be another purge of bad contracts like there was with previous CBA.
Zaitsevs contract?no thanks to weber. this new regime has a plan and part of that plan is avoiding big long term expensive deals. why would they go backwards and trade for weber who's on a worse contract than most guys in this league?
that was one contract and it looks ugly. don't need another anchor in weberZaitsevs contract?
The NHLPA can not stop any player from retiring.Think before you post something stupid.LOL he won't be retiring and giving up that money. Horton, Savard have been on LTIR to finish out their deals and weber will be too. The NHLPA won't allow it.
A bunch of junk will not get you Weber.Not looking to go nuclear here by trading a bunch of core pieces but think that the Leafs might want to look at what is available to tweak the roster this summer. Wanting to throw this out there and see what needs to be done, if anything to alter it.
Leafs 1st (2018)
Brown/Kapanen - Habs choice
Martin (cap)
Bracco/Nielsen - Habs choice
Zaitsev (replacement RHD - equals out term)
for
Weber (no retention)
Shaw (1M retention)
Deslauriers
Rationale for the retention was Martin's contract ends sooner but it has been out there previously that Montreal was looking to maybe move on from his contract. I'm probably more into acquiring Weber then most Leaf fans so they might not necessarily be into the move but they can start their own thread
All that being said, yay/nay/tweak ?
He does have 8 years left on his contract though and will be 33 in August. At some point decline hits, then what? Just thinking that if I were in that position and looking at where Montreal is, would it make more sense to acquire some assets now?
Yet another that doesn't understand the recapture penalties on that contract. If he retires before 35, Montreal incurs a modest penalty for each year before that age and the rest goes to Nashville.. The serious penalties will always reside with the Preds. If he retires between 36 and 41 - regardless of who he's playing for - those penalties go back to NashvilleIn 2 years, if Weber declines, you'll want to get out of that contract, do you think Weber returns even a 1st at that point?
Yet another that doesn't understand the recapture penalties on that contract. If he retires before 35, Montreal incurs a modest penalty for each year before that age and the rest goes to Nashville.. The serious penalties will always reside with the Preds. If he retires between 36 and 41 - regardless of who he's playing for - those penalties go back to Nashville
replace brown/kapanen with nylander/marner and you have the value but still dont see habs doing it, because whats the point of being loaded up front with D that totally sucks? you end up getting swept first round by Boston, although maybe with Price its possible to advance a little farther.
Unless weber retires before sepetember 2020, those penalties will either go away in the next CBA or he'll be LTIR'd and traded to a cap floor team.
Distinct possibilities.
lol funny how you're basically asking for all the habs grit as you get manhandled by boston. coincidence? i don't think so. here's the thing, weber is EXACTLY what leafs need...huge grit on back end and big shot on PP to offer option to all the skill up front.Not looking to go nuclear here by trading a bunch of core pieces but think that the Leafs might want to look at what is available to tweak the roster this summer. Wanting to throw this out there and see what needs to be done, if anything to alter it.
Leafs 1st (2018)
Brown/Kapanen - Habs choice
Martin (cap)
Bracco/Nielsen - Habs choice
Zaitsev (replacement RHD - equals out term)
for
Weber (no retention)
Shaw (1M retention)
Deslauriers
Rationale for the retention was Martin's contract ends sooner but it has been out there previously that Montreal was looking to maybe move on from his contract. I'm probably more into acquiring Weber then most Leaf fans so they might not necessarily be into the move but they can start their own thread
All that being said, yay/nay/tweak ?
He does have 8 years left on his contract though and will be 33 in August. At some point decline hits, then what? Just thinking that if I were in that position and looking at where Montreal is, would it make more sense to acquire some assets now?
It's the fact that some people are stuck on the 8 years. The remaining term only means something to Nashville. Even if nothing were to change with the CBA, there's really nothing about the contract itself to be worried about.Regardless of a lockout there will be a new CBA discussion in 2 1/2 years from now.
It's the fact that some people are stuck on the 8 years. The remaining term only means something to Nashville. Even if nothing were to change with the CBA, there's really nothing about the contract itself to be worried about.
2018-19 | $7,857,143 | $6,000,000 | ||||
2019-20 | $7,857,143 | $6,000,000 | ||||
2020-21 | $7,857,143 | $6,000,000 | ||||
2021-22 | $7,857,143 | $6,000,000 | ||||
2022-23 | $7,857,143 | $3,000,000 | ||||
2023-24 | $7,857,143 | $1,000,000 | ||||
2024-25 | $7,857,143 | $1,000,000 | ||||
2025-26 | $7,857,143 | $1,000,000 |
He's had enough injuries issues that it'll be an LTIR situation if he is too hurt to continue in a few years. You don't get it that players don't walk away from a million guaranteed in salary with these backdiving deals. They "retire" but in a financial sense they're still active.