Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] Matthews extended (5 years, $11.63M AAV) part 2
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Since everyone likes to complain and say Crosby took a discount here are the cap% for some of the big name players 2nd(or 3rd in new CBA) contracts:
Crosby 17.3% 5 years
McDavid 16.67% 8 years
Malkin 15.34% 5 years
Eichel 13.33% 8 years
Matthews 14.63% 5 years
Stamkos 11.66% 5 years
Kucherov 11.95% 8 years
Kane 11.09%, 5 years. 2nd 15.22% (New CBA) 8 years
Perry (3rd contract new CBA) 13.41% 8 years
Drai 11.33% 8 years
Tarasenko 10.27% 8 years
Kuznetsov 10.4% 8 years
Im not saying that AM contract is good. He got paid full market value at a reduced term without giving up many UFA years. The contract sucks for the leafs. But people need to stop saying Sid took a discount and comparing it to AM and others.
Crosby 17.3% 5 years
McDavid 16.67% 8 years
Malkin 15.34% 5 years
Eichel 13.33% 8 years
Matthews 14.63% 5 years
Stamkos 11.66% 5 years
Kucherov 11.95% 8 years
Kane 11.09%, 5 years. 2nd 15.22% (New CBA) 8 years
Perry (3rd contract new CBA) 13.41% 8 years
Drai 11.33% 8 years
Tarasenko 10.27% 8 years
Kuznetsov 10.4% 8 years
Im not saying that AM contract is good. He got paid full market value at a reduced term without giving up many UFA years. The contract sucks for the leafs. But people need to stop saying Sid took a discount and comparing it to AM and others.
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Liferleafer
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He's making sure that guys like Laine/Point/Aho/Mikko get the money they deserve.
DanM
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If this was me at the 4pm conference:
ME: Matty, you said you didn't want to sign the 8 year deal, because the money was too much?
AM: Yes, this is correct
ME: The reports are saying with inflation, and McDavids 12.5m contract, you would have been close to 14m on a 8 year?
AM: Yes, correct
ME: McDavid has won a hart, Lyndsey, and 2 art ross, how is this a comparable?
AM: .......... OK folks, that's enough questions.
ME: Matty, you said you didn't want to sign the 8 year deal, because the money was too much?
AM: Yes, this is correct
ME: The reports are saying with inflation, and McDavids 12.5m contract, you would have been close to 14m on a 8 year?
AM: Yes, correct
ME: McDavid has won a hart, Lyndsey, and 2 art ross, how is this a comparable?
AM: .......... OK folks, that's enough questions.
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After the 20/21 season the nhl will be getting a new TV deal in USA... with the way sports is getting money... expect the next USA deal to massively push the cap up
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Can't imagine the brass in Colorado are too happy with this.
Ainec
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how many of those contracts only buy out 1 UFA year?
Brunomics
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How badly do the Leafs get screwed up if there is a lockout? If Marner signs you figure it's going to have a similar bonus structure. 30+ million in bonuses during a lockout has to wreck an organization.
Gonna hit free agency when he hits his prime at 26!! Crazzzy!!
Lockout looming so Leafs only get 4 more yrs of Mathews ??? Omg
Never had 70 pts and makes 11.6 mil!!
What is Dubas doing??
Lockout looming so Leafs only get 4 more yrs of Mathews ??? Omg
Never had 70 pts and makes 11.6 mil!!
What is Dubas doing??
Excellent move by Matthews. Gets a huge contract and to UFA as soon as possible, which is his ultimate goal. We all knew this was coming after the Leafs overpaid for Tavares and Nylander.
So much for the discount Leaf fans told us he would take.
So much for the discount Leaf fans told us he would take.
Malkin and Crosby's were both 5 year deals for sure
Appreciate the work you did, but without the context of term on those deals it really doesn't provide a fair picture
DanM
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Umm not even remotely? It's the Leafs.
I think the AM contract sucks because of the term. It just puts in perspective he didnt take a discount
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Eichel will still be playing for Buffalo at $10, while AM is playing somewhere else with likely no compensation for Leafs.
8 year deals eat up more UFA years which are usually more expensive compared to RFA years. This deal IMO at least is expensive for 1 UFA year bought. For an 8 year deal this would have been great for the Leafs. Again IMO!
a 5 year deal gives Matthews the opportunity to cash-in on a big deal again at 27. He'll be in his 'prime years', maybe even at his peak, and the cap will likely be a lot higher. So, the contract he signs at 27 will likely be more expensive and include years that AM's play starts to deteriorate (aged 30 onwards.... this is usually the norm for players with obvious exceptions)
hypothetical:
option 1) the Leafs locked him for 8 years at age 21-29 @ 13M. Leafs get a guaranteed rate through all of AM's prime/peak
option 2) Leafs lock him up for 5 year @ 11.634M and Matthews has the opportunity to net a very lucrative deal that'll be all UFA years at age 27. If it's a long-term deal it'll probably include years AM's play begins to deteriorate - again it'll likely be at a higher cap hit due to it being all UFA years and the cap hit being larger. There is also the risk that AM explores the market and walks too at 27.
this is how i perceive things, at least
Ainec
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they signed 12 year contracts lol, which is what you want for a player like that
and their shorter contract still made them RFA
this 5 year deal is just marginally better than a 4 year contract which will never happen unless Matthews is the GM
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Why because we over payed a bit for the extra years and signed Drai for 8.5? Don't blame Edmonton for Dubas not being a good negotiator.
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