Waived: [TOR] Maple Leafs waive C Jason Spezza and G Aaron Dell

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llamateizer

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The NHL is a business, if they think he could help, they would claim him. Obviously, they dont. It's nothing to do with sabotage or pandemic.

The player stated that he'd retire.
he's 37 paid 750k. It's called respek .

yes it's a business.
 

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what does that even mean? So teams should be guilt tripped into not picking a guy up then? I would take Spezza, he’s better than what we’ve got going on and a 6th of the price.

He's not going to play for your team. It's a waste of time, that's why. You'd just be destroying your own reputation as a GM for what putpose?
 

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Claiming a player that doesn't want to play there and forcing him to retire is one way to ensure you never have any players sign with you
Not only that but you’d probably put Spezza on unconditional waivers to terminate his contract since he isn’t going to report and then the Leafs just reclaim him.
 
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smirob

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Too bad, hopefully this starts a trend of players threatening to not play for another team if claimed
 

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Claiming a player that doesn't want to play there and forcing him to retire is one way to ensure you never have any players sign with you

Nobody will be thinking about whoever that would be when it comes time to get their money. Plus, Spezza would not be forced into retirement. Had he been claimed, and retired, that would've been his choice.
 

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He's not going to play for your team. It's a waste of time, that's why. You'd just be destroying your own reputation as a GM for what putpose?

How is claiming a player off of waivers destroying your reputation? Regardless, it’s over now. It doesn’t matter. Still a slimy move by Toronto. Nobody should be able to pass guys through waivers that are unclaimable.
 

FerrisRox

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I can't speak for other teams in our division but Vancouver would take Speeza easily. Our "depth" is terrible. He'd certainly be of more use than Beagle, Eriksson or Sutter.

In a bottom six role I would easily take Beagle or Sutter over Spezza, and by a fair margin.

Are you factoring in the cap savings in this decision, because based on what you get on the ice, it's no question Beagle or Sutter help your club in the bottom six more than Spezza would.
 

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How is claiming a player off of waivers destroying your reputation? Regardless, it’s over now. It doesn’t matter. Still a slimy move by Toronto. Nobody should be able to pass guys through waivers that are unclaimable.

Because you're killing the career of a guy who doesn't want to play for your team.
 

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In a bottom six role I would easily take Beagle or Sutter over Spezza, and by a fair margin.

Are you factoring in the cap savings in this decision, because based on what you get on the ice, it's no question Beagle or Sutter help your club in the bottom six more than Spezza would.

LOL. It's like people haven't watched Spezza in years. He's much more effective than those guys.

 

FerrisRox

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LOL. It's like people haven't watched Spezza in years. He's much more effective than those guys.



What do you think this is proving?

Are you suggesting that Jason Spezza is a good defensive player?

Out of curiosity, if Jason Spezza is a solid defensive centre - and a bargain at $700K - why did the Maple Leafs just waive him?

Furthermore, why did nobody claim him? Because his agent said he wants to retire a Leaf?
 
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VanillaCoke

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In a bottom six role I would easily take Beagle or Sutter over Spezza, and by a fair margin.

Are you factoring in the cap savings in this decision, because based on what you get on the ice, it's no question Beagle or Sutter help your club in the bottom six more than Spezza would.
You'd be very wrong. Spezza is an excellent cheap 4th liner, he just wants to play, in Toronto.
Beagle and sutter are trash that provide zero value, especially for 4x the cost.
 

Menzinger

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What do you think this is proving?

Are you suggesting that Jason Spezza is a good defensive player?

Out of curiosity, if Jason Spezza is a solid defensive centre - and a bargain at $700K - why did the Maple Leafs just waive him?

Furthermore, why did nobody claim him? Because his agent said he wants to retire a Leaf?

They waived him because they needed cap maneuvering and they knew nobody would claim him. He will be playing with the team again before too long.

Spezza has been highly responsible in his own end and his production (35ish point pace last season) given his limited icetime is fantastic value for a league minimum deal.
 

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Was hoping one of Toronto's divisional rivals would have claimed him to remove Spezza from their roster
 

Michel Beauchamp

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Meh doesnt really matter. If hes really not gonna report to the team, the team would have to put him on waivers again to terminate his contract, if thats the case no team will claim him and Leafs can just reclaim him.
As written numerous times, they could simply suspend him...
 

FerrisRox

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It seems the exact opposite has happened in this thread. As soon as he went unclaimed Ferris showed up. Consider me shocked!

I guess you're not following the thread. I posted yesterday saying that Spezza would not be claimed at that even if he were, it wouldn't weaken Toronto to lose him.
 

FerrisRox

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They waived him because they needed cap maneuvering and they knew nobody would claim him. He will be playing with the team again before too long.

Spezza has been highly responsible in his own end and his production (35ish point pace last season) given his limited icetime is fantastic value for a league minimum deal.

If you say so.
 
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