Confirmed Trade: [TOR/FLA] Denis Malgin for Mason Marchment

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Empoleon8771

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This point has probably been made already, but considering the Leafs are already flawed because they are too small and soft, adding another small and soft player seems to be almost doubling down on your problems instead of trying to address them.

He's a solid player, but the Leafs seem to already have a ton of players like him. Malgin seems to be more of what they already have too much of.
 
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This point has probably been made already, but considering the Leafs are already flawed because they are too small and soft, adding another small and soft player seems to be almost doubling down on your problems instead of trying to address them.

He's a solid player, but the Leafs seem to already have a ton of players like him. Malgin seems to be more of what they already have too much of.

It's too bad this is the only trade we're allowed to make this year and haven't been heavily rumored to be moving a scoring winger for a D.
 

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This point has probably been made already, but considering the Leafs are already flawed because they are too small and soft, adding another small and soft player seems to be almost doubling down on your problems instead of trying to address them.

He's a solid player, but the Leafs seem to already have a ton of players like him. Malgin seems to be more of what they already have too much of.

Yep they needed to go after a bigger, tougher player.
 

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Good for Malgin who clearly needed a change of scenery; asked for a trade and got it. It wasn't working in FLA and better to get something back than lose him on waivers for nothing.
Not too happy we traded him to Toronto but it is what it is.
 

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I wanted Marchment up and on our 4th line so bad.... but it became quite clear that he doesn't and likely will never have the wheels for the NHL.
It was glaringly obvious in his short stint.
 

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Bad trade for the leafs, another small forward and get just another in the way of bringing up guys like korshkov. Who actually has size. If they wanted another small forward bring up Bracco.
 

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Man people will shit on Dubas for anything. He just acquired a 23-year-old center with 184 games of NHL experience for an OLDER player who has 4 NHL games to his name and is pretty much guaranteed to never become an established NHLer. One for one. They're both arbitration eligible RFAs this summer too IIRC so the contract statuses are identical as well. How is that not a massive win for Dubas.
 

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This point has probably been made already, but considering the Leafs are already flawed because they are too small and soft, adding another small and soft player seems to be almost doubling down on your problems instead of trying to address them.

He's a solid player, but the Leafs seem to already have a ton of players like him. Malgin seems to be more of what they already have too much of.
The Leafs' stars are certainly on the soft side, but are their depth players any softer than the Pens? Clifford, Hyman, Muzzin and Holl are chippy by today's standards. Muzzin throws heavier hits than anyone on Pittsburgh. Clifford could beat the crap out anyone on the Penguins roster in a fight.

You can't criticize the Leafs roster for being soft (which they sure as hell are) when Pittsburgh is on par with them. The Leafs have decent resilience to the physicality of the Bruins/Caps; their defense is just beyond mediocre.
 

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Pittsburgh, Tampa and Colorado are arguably three of the five best teams in the league right now and they don't think twice about running small skilled players like Dominik Simon, Andrew Agozzino, Yanni Gourde, Mitchell Stephens, T.J. Tynan, Sheldon Dries, etc etc on their fourth lines. And I'm talking tiny, some of the guys listed there are under 5'10 just like Malgin. But somehow the Leafs are the only team that get criticism for this and better yet it's cited as one of the reasons they're not as good as expected.

The NHL is radically different than it was even five years ago. Small and skilled now beats the hell out of big and unskilled throughout your lineup.
 
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Good luck, Denis. As a Swiss, I wish to see more regulars in the NHL. However, Toronto is a bad fit. He's not a bottom-6 player and Toronto's top-6 is as crowded as it gets in the NHL.
 

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Pittsburgh, Tampa and Colorado are arguably three of the five best teams in the league right now and they don't think twice about running small skilled players like Dominik Simon, Andrew Agozzino, Yanni Gourde, Mitchell Stephens, T.J. Tynan, Sheldon Dries, etc etc on their fourth lines. And I'm talking tiny, some of the guys listed there are under 5'10 just like Malgin. But somehow the Leafs are the only team that get criticism for this and better yet it's cited as one of the reasons they're not as good as expected.

The NHL is radically different than it was even five years ago. Small and skilled now beats the hell out of big and unskilled throughout your lineup.
Sheldon Dries has only played one game this season, and he is a buzzsaw (not a finesse player). Mitchell Stephens is more of a penalty killer. Andrew Agozzino is well-rounded and has an edge, though I would rather have someone who could be relied on to fight. Not the greatest examples that you have given.

That being said, the Malgin trade makes sense with Johnsson being out for the remainder of the season.
 

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Meh. Marchment was trending upwards.
He could be a bruising 4th liner has size and his skating isnt bad but could be improved and fined tuned.

I used to be high on marchy thought he would be a beast of a 4th liner. He still can be he only played a handful of nhl games and I believe some after an injury iirc.

Dont count him out just yet is all I'm saying, will never be more then a 4th liner but could be a good one at that.
 
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The Leafs' stars are certainly on the soft side, but are their depth players any softer than the Pens? Clifford, Hyman, Muzzin and Holl are chippy by today's standards. Muzzin throws heavier hits than anyone on Pittsburgh. Clifford could beat the crap out anyone on the Penguins roster in a fight.

You can't criticize the Leafs roster for being soft (which they sure as hell are) when Pittsburgh is on par with them. The Leafs have decent resilience to the physicality of the Bruins/Caps; their defense is just beyond mediocre.

I think the Penguins depth forwards are a little bit more physical, if you're comparing Tanev, Hornqvist, ZAR and JJ to that group. But I think the bigger difference is with the top end guys. The Penguins top end guys play way more physically than the Leafs top end guys, so even if the Leafs bottom-6 is more physical, it doesn't match up to the big advantage Crosby, Malkin, Letang and Guentzel have on Matthews, Marner, JT and Rielly. If you're going purely by hits, I think the Penguins are near the top of the league and I imagine the Leafs are near the bottom.
 

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Given there is a small chance Malgin works out in Toronto why exactly did the Panthers make this trade? It’s not like they’re competing for the Leafs for the last playoff spot in the division or anything...
 

VanJack

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Bad trade for the leafs, another small forward and get just another in the way of bringing up guys like korshkov. Who actually has size. If they wanted another small forward bring up Bracco.
My thoughts exactly...is Malgin better than Bracco or even Nic Petan?
 

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Lots of hot takes in here about Denis Malgin, a guy who couldn't put up points on one of the best offenses in the league 2 years in a row. He had every chance to succeed in Florida and failed almost every time short of about 10 games to start this season.

He is soft, weak on the puck but has good vision and can make a decent pass when he doesn't pass it right into a player on the other team. His wirst shot is that of a PeeWee player.

Don't expect much to be honest.
 
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Dread Clawz

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I don't get this for the Panthers . Malgin is an NHL player i don't think Marchment is .

Not much of one. Malgin has never put it all together. He has great stickhandling skills and is a pretty good passer. But he never worked on his shot enough. He also shys away from the rough stuff at every opportunity. Once he starts getting rattled, he disappears. He also goes through long cold streaks. Every once in a while he'll have a strong game, but yeah, he is strictly 4th line material.

Panthers needed to clear cap and a roster spot for other moves. Tbh Malgin looks redundant on Toronto, but idk maybe he could be a pp specialist on 2nd unit(again I'm sure Leafs have that covered).
 
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