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So the solution is to trade Marner for a lesser player?Like... ?
Because none of the young, talented, potential #1 RHD are available for a winger.
So the solution is to trade Marner for a lesser player?Like... ?
Because none of the young, talented, potential #1 RHD are available for a winger.
So the solution is to trade Marner for a lesser player?
No it’s to keep Marner. There’s no solution because there’s no one who will ever give up what you want for Marner
Can't draft and develop?Bingo!
RHD and 1C are the most valued positions in hockey. Wingers are the least. Marner is a fantastic Winger, but unfortunately plays a position that does not have the same value as the RHD the Leafs need. Leaf fans might be unhappy (understandable), but if they want that RHD they will have to overpay which could be Marner or Nylander.
Can't draft and develop?
COL
Nylander (RFA)
TOR
Johnson
OTT 1st (unprotected by COL...are they able to protect someone else's pick?)
COL top 9 Forwards
Landeskog/MacKinnon/Rantanen
Nieto/Soderberg/Nylander
Jost/Compher/Andrighetto
TOR top 6 Defense
Rielly/Johnson
Gardiner/Zaitsev
Dermott/Hainsey
COL's top pairing RHD and potentially Jack Hughes (i dont think you can protect a pick futher but you can do a lower of the two picks if that's what you mean) for Nylander... eekCOL
Nylander (RFA)
TOR
Johnson
OTT 1st (unprotected by COL...are they able to protect someone else's pick?)
COL top 9 Forwards
Landeskog/MacKinnon/Rantanen
Nieto/Soderberg/Nylander
Jost/Compher/Andrighetto
TOR top 6 Defense
Rielly/Johnson
Gardiner/Zaitsev
Dermott/Hainsey
A low end #1 defenseman and the most valuable draft pick (at this point in time) in next years NHL draft for William Nylander? You can’t really think that’s a fair proposal?COL
Nylander (RFA)
TOR
Johnson
OTT 1st (unprotected by COL...are they able to protect someone else's pick?)
COL top 9 Forwards
Landeskog/MacKinnon/Rantanen
Nieto/Soderberg/Nylander
Jost/Compher/Andrighetto
TOR top 6 Defense
Rielly/Johnson
Gardiner/Zaitsev
Dermott/Hainsey
I think you need to see one more year of performance before you can declare him to be at Matthews level. Other than last year his performance has been mehYou make Leaf fans look stupid believing Marner can get Mackinnon. Matthews maybe, but if you want EJ the Leafs need to offer a better return.
COL's top pairing RHD and potentially Jack Hughes (i dont think you can protect a pick futher but you can do a lower of the two picks if that's what you mean) for Nylander... eek
True. But EJ + 10th-15th OA is still too much for Nylander. Knowing that the puck has a chance to be so much higher than that makes it ridiculous value.It could totally be Hughes...best case scenario for COL is 25% chance at him. That said, OTT still has a lot of players who could have bounce back years in Karlsson, Duchene & Andersen. They will still suck but, at least they could be better than MTL, NYI, NYR, DET, NYI in the East and better than ARI & VAN in the west...
It could totally be Hughes...best case scenario for COL is 25% chance at him. That said, OTT still has a lot of players who could have bounce back years in Karlsson, Duchene & Andersen. They will still suck but, at least they could be better than MTL, NYI, NYR, DET, NYI in the East and better than ARI & VAN in the west...
COL
Nylander (RFA)
TOR
Johnson
OTT 1st (unprotected by COL...are they able to protect someone else's pick?)
COL top 9 Forwards
Landeskog/MacKinnon/Rantanen
Nieto/Soderberg/Nylander
Jost/Compher/Andrighetto
TOR top 6 Defense
Rielly/Johnson
Gardiner/Zaitsev
Dermott/Hainsey
COL
Nylander (RFA)
TOR
Johnson
OTT 1st (unprotected by COL...are they able to protect someone else's pick?)
COL top 9 Forwards
Landeskog/MacKinnon/Rantanen
Nieto/Soderberg/Nylander
Jost/Compher/Andrighetto
TOR top 6 Defense
Rielly/Johnson
Gardiner/Zaitsev
Dermott/Hainsey
Nylander alone is not worth the Sens 1st.
Nylander alone is not worth the Sens 1st.
COL
Nylander (RFA)
TOR
Johnson
OTT 1st (unprotected by COL...are they able to protect someone else's pick?)
COL top 9 Forwards
Landeskog/MacKinnon/Rantanen
Nieto/Soderberg/Nylander
Jost/Compher/Andrighetto
TOR top 6 Defense
Rielly/Johnson
Gardiner/Zaitsev
Dermott/Hainsey
If the Leafs were able to grab a Marner in every draft I don't think they would have a problem trading him.... thing is players of Marner's calibre do not come around every draft and the Leafs wont be drafting close to where these players are being picked....... So the Leafs have drafted to build a pipeline of DMen, but can the team keep waiting or trade an All-Star Winger they can replenish each draft?
I totally disagree...There is this notion that all picks are going to be better than the player offered. IF there was a redraft of the '14 draft. Nylander could easily be a top 5 with Ekblad, Ehlers, Pastrnak, Nylander, Point (in no order).
Nylander is a back to back 60Point winger in his two seasons played...and should get better. There is risk for the Leafs in this deal as they are giving up the Best player ATM. Johnson while a very good D doesn't get you Nylander in a deal as a stand alone. Perhaps a small + on Leafs end could be argued to even the deal.
Apparently you don't know your hockey as well as you think, Jay.When did St Louis get inolved?
EJ is a low end #1D. Marner isn't gonna snag you a young #1D. Sorry!
Now that martin is gone we don’t have any more of those.He would be a perfect addition for the Leafs and would provide leadership along with much needed skill. Problem is the AVs actually need him more the Leafs. There are also Cap Issues in fitting his deal, so unless a player such as Marner + Cap Dump, I doubt either team would be interested.