Confirmed Trade: [TOR/CAR] Marleau, 2020 1st Rd. (Top 10 Prot.) & 2020 7th Rd. to CAR for 2020 6th Rd. [PART 2]

[Martin Skoula]

I'm not debating that. My debate is, if Tavares doesn't sign and Dubas doesn't overpay 3 players that contract would be fine for just 1 more year.

What's fine about paying a 3rd liner 6.25 with a full NMC on a 35+ contract? That's one of the least cap efficient contracts in the league in year 2 and 3. That money can be spent much better in the teams key competitive years.

 

[Larry44]

Carolina has a good team, scary if this puts them in the lottery too.

 

[Hostile Offer]

This looks fun.

 

[Fourier]

Carolina has a good team, scary if this puts them in the lottery too.

The pick is top ten protected.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

The pick is top ten protected.

11-15 still lottery, ya?

 

[TBF1972]

Please, please, please be the 11th pick (unless it means another Metro team has won the lottery).

you should hope for an even higher pick in the 2021 draft.

 

[Cotton]

Seems unlikely. He probably wore Habs Pajamas as a kid. Only way he wears a Leafs jersey is if he dresses up as the great depression for Halloween

Why, because he's french-canadian he must love the Habs? Jack Hughes is American and loves the Leafs, Duchene grew up a Av's fan, Kadri a Habs fan, Doughty a Kings fan. Nobody a Canes fan. Geography hasn't dictated who people fanboy for a while bud, get with the times.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

you should hope for an even higher pick in the 2021 draft.

Agreed. If I were Carolina, I wouldn't mind a shot at an unprotected pick in 2021. The Leafs D will only have Rielly on D signed next year. Things can actually be worse next year. Or better for the Canes when the pick is converted.

 

[TBF1972]

What's fine about paying a 3rd liner 6.25 with a full NMC on a 35+ contract? That's one of the least cap efficient contracts in the league in year 2 and 3. That money can be spent much better in the teams key competitive years.

You are talking about the last and this season. For TML fan base and HFB I hope they still will be competitive next season and beyond.

 

[nbwingsfan]

What's fine about paying a 3rd liner 6.25 with a full NMC on a 35+ contract? That's one of the least cap efficient contracts in the league in year 2 and 3. That money can be spent much better in the teams key competitive years.

The Leafs look awful this year, so that $6.75M isn’t helping too much, is it?

 

[howkie]

11-15 still lottery, ya?

Yeah, but Carolina can only be sure to pick 11 as earliest.
Even Leafs miss the playoff and that pick ends up a top-3 pick, Leaf can keep it.

Short answear, if the pick ends up within the top 10 after the lottory, Leafs can decide if they wanna keep it, or give it to Canes.

 

[sharks9]

Carolina has a good team, scary if this puts them in the lottery too.

It's top-10 protected. So Carolina will at best get the 11th overall pick which will be a good player, but not an immediate impact kind of guy.

 

[ijuka]

What's fine about paying a 3rd liner 6.25 with a full NMC on a 35+ contract? That's one of the least cap efficient contracts in the league in year 2 and 3. That money can be spent much better in the teams key competitive years.

Such as paying a Cody Ceci 4.5mil, right? Such good use for that money. And in the first place, a 1st round pick's very steep for 1 year of 6mil. Especially if it ends up being like #11.

 

[Baksfamous112]

11-15 still lottery, ya?

It is but if they do get a 11-15 pick and win the lottery it then gets protected. Best case scenario would be they finish 20th in the league and doesn’t win the lottery

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

It is but if they do get a 11-15 pick and win the lottery it then gets protected. Best case scenario would be they finish 20th in the league and doesn’t win the lottery

So its better if they get a 20th pick instead of a 11-15? Its protected if the pick falls 10 or below.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

you should hope for an even higher pick in the 2021 draft.

While I would normally agree, this draft class is very deep. The 11th pick in this year’s draft could be as good as 4-6 in others. I don’t see Toronto falling that hard. 11th pick is about the worst case scenario for them with their talent level.

 

[Baksfamous112]

So its better if they get a 20th pick instead of a 11-15? Its protected if the pick falls 10 or below.

By finishing 20th in the league they get the #11 pick..

 

[Lempo]

Yeah, but Carolina can only be sure to pick 11 as earliest.
Even Leafs miss the playoff and that pick ends up a top-3 pick, Leaf can keep it.

Short answear, if the pick ends up within the top 10 after the lottory, Leafs can decide if they wanna keep it, or give it to Canes.

No. Leafs won't decide. If it's top 10, they will by the terms of the trade keep 2020 1st and the 2021 1st will be transferred to Canes.

There will be no "oh look, it's 9OA, maybe we let the Canes have it".

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Why, because he's french-canadian he must love the Habs? Jack Hughes is American and loves the Leafs, Duchene grew up a Av's fan, Kadri a Habs fan, Doughty a Kings fan. Nobody a Canes fan. Geography hasn't dictated who people fanboy for a while bud, get with the times.

I mean I’m a Canes fan from Toronto so I agree with you on that but to find a Francophone who’s a Leafs fan is a much harder task than the other way around.

 

[Hostile Offer]

No. Leafs won't decide. If it's top 10, they will by the terms of the trade keep 2020 1st and the 2021 1st will be transferred to Canes.

There will be no "oh look, it's 9OA, maybe we let the Canes have it".

They can still trade it to Carolina for their own 2021 pick though, right?

 

[Lempo]

They can still trade it to Carolina for their own 2021 pick though, right?

If Carolina agrees to such trade, yes.

Probably only after the lottery, though, when it is set that TML has their 2020 1st and CAR owns the TML 2021 1st. I don't think they would be allowed to open (and re-negotiate) a conditional trade before the condition clears out.

 

[Habs Halifax]

you should hope for an even higher pick in the 2021 draft.

Leafs D will be worse next year too! They better hope Muzzin signs a team friendly deal! Sandin and Liljegren are not the short term answers.

 

[Cor]

Dubas’ best move of the summer was protecting this pick

 

[FourRings]

It's like people who complain about the Lakers getting all the attention but they can't help but be obsessed with them good or bad. "Why does ESPN only talk about the LAKERS?" *opens 4th Lakers article of the night*

Bud, the Leafs ain't the Lakers. They're the Knicks.

 

[howkie]

No. Leafs won't decide. If it's top 10, they will by the terms of the trade keep 2020 1st and the 2021 1st will be transferred to Canes.

There will be no "oh look, it's 9OA, maybe we let the Canes have it".

You are correct, I read the thing wrong =(