Proposal: Tor-Ana

[bmoc]

Tor
J. Manson
S.Steel
1st (27)

Ana
W. Nylander

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[TheImpatientPanther]

As in 6th overall 1st or 2021 1st? I'd assume the latter
Makes a big difference here gauging the offer.

 

[bmoc]

27 in 2020

 

[A1LeafNation]

That's a fair deal.

I don't do it until AP signs in STL though. So it would have to be a 2021 1st.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

27 in 2020

May want to edit the OP to clarify for others.
I think it's a decent offer but most TOR fans will view that late 1st as fluff to add to 15th or Andersen for a better return unless there's some decent D prospects in that range?

I think Nylander + good add (prospect) for Manson + Rakell would also be of interest for both teams.

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

No from this ducks fan

 

[Meeqs]

This seems like a quantity for quality type of move tbh. I think Manson could fit what Tor is looking for but none of those 3 pieces have nearly enough to even get in the ball park of Nylander. There are some elements here that would make good trades otherwise but overall it is not close

 

[Morgs]

Easy no for the Leafs.

 

[MMC]

No from this Ducks fan

 

[Toronto makebeleifs]

Yes from the leafs. Steel I've always had my eye on. Anh doesn't do this though, they're on the bubble for a rebuild; steel and Manson if sold separately (if they're ever moved), would fetch a bit more, imho.

 

[Dirk316]

Insulting offer to Anaheim

 

[Patagonia]

ANA is rebuilding and could get a better return if the players are traded separately.

 

[Boondock]

ANA is rebuilding and could get a better return if the players are traded separately.

I disagree - traded as individual assets, there is no singular piece coming back that has Nylander's value. Without a return of the better player the Ducks have no reason to trade the futures pieces (1st and Steel). So I can see why the Ducks wouldn't want to move all those pieces for Nylander, but they aren't getting a better player by moving those pieces separately.

 

[Menzinger]

The Leafs aren't trading Nylander unless there's a core rhD man with term coming back. Soon to be UFAs as the main piece doesn't do anything for them

 

[Dirk316]

Anaheim has no use for a soft overpaid 2nd line winger who disappears in the playoffs due to fear of a more physical game.

 

[Dirk316]

The Leafs aren't trading Nylander unless there's a core rhD man with term coming back. Soon to be UFAs as the main piece doesn't do anything for them

Goodluck with that

 

[Boondock]

The Leafs aren't trading Nylander unless there's a core rhD man with term coming back. Soon to be UFAs as the main piece doesn't do anything for them

I know this topic has been cycled through many times but I am curious are there 2-3 players that meet this description that you feel are equal value to Nylander?

 

[Dr Quincy]

Anaheim has no use for a soft overpaid 2nd line winger who disappears in the playoffs due to fear of a more physical game.

Nylander had 4 pts in 5 games this year and is .60 ppg for his playoff career.

For comparison sake:
Rakell- .41 ppg
Silfverberg- .65
Henrique- .36
Steel- never played in the playoffs
Terry- never played in the playoffs

I'd rather disappear in the playoffs then disappear for the 82 games before the playoffs. What's their excuse?

 

[lwvs84]

While the value might be fair, this isn't what Anaheim should be doing. Adding Nylander is trying to fast track a rebuild. IF Manson is traded, it should be for picks and prospects. Nylander will probably put up more points than Steel, but hopefully Steel will turn into a 50 point, 2nd line C. The Ducks likely will not be contenders for the next few years which will waste most of Nylander's contract. Toronto could probably add Manson @50% without trading Nylander by trading the 15+prospect.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Anaheim has no use for a soft overpaid 2nd line winger who disappears in the playoffs due to fear of a more physical game.

Nothing going to the Ducks even hints at that.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I don’t see a point... if anything manson for 15 maybe adds from both sides

 

[Dr Quincy]

While the value might be fair, this isn't what Anaheim should be doing. Adding Nylander is trying to fast track a rebuild. IF Manson is traded, it should be for picks and prospects. Nylander will probably put up more points than Steel, but hopefully Steel will turn into a 50 point, 2nd line C. The Ducks likely will not be contenders for the next few years which will waste most of Nylander's contract. Toronto could probably add Manson @50% without trading Nylander by trading the 15+prospect.

IDK not talking about this particular trade but the idea that a rebuilding team, that had a high pick last year, and will get a high pick this year. would rather get another mid-1st or similar prospect over a proven top line talent is odd to me.

That mid 1st pick that you get is going to have 25% chance of being Nylander and if it happens it's 3 years away. If I'm rebuilding I'd rather add a sure top of the roster 24 year old player than get a prospect or pick that you have to roll the dice on AND wait on.

 

[Canada4Gold]

It's interesting. But I don't think trading Nylander and his good contract would be the solution if Pietrangelo signed. If we had to move 1 top guy I think Marner is more likely. If nothing else was possible and this was the best offer for Nylander and the only way to bring Pietrangelo in I would take it.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Anaheim has no use for a soft overpaid 2nd line winger who disappears in the playoffs due to fear of a more physical game.

Is "disappearing in the playoffs" really a concern for Anaheim in the near future? Not being sarcastic, but how far away are they from being a playoff team? 1 year? 2 years? 3 years? (genuinely don't know)

 

[Maurice of Orange]

There should be a Nylander trade proposal mega thread.
This is the 5th proposal that involves Nylander as the main piece in 3 days.