Top scoring prospects from each league?

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  1. leafaholix*

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    Who is the top scoring prospect from your organization for these leagues...

    WHL
    OHL
    QMJHL
    AHL
    Europe
    NCAA
    ECHL

    And top goalie prospect from the leagues listed?
     
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  2. leafaholix*

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    Leafs...

    WHL: Martin Sagat (72 games, 17 goals, 46 assists, 63 points)
    OHL: John Mitchell (63 games, 25 goals, 50 assists, 75 points)
    QMJHL: Jan Steber (63 game, 17 goals, 17 assists, 34 points)
    AHL: Kyle Wellwood (68 games, 29 goals, 41 assists, 70 points)
    Europe: Roman Kukumberg (55 games, 10 goals, 11 assists, 21 points)
    NCAA: Robbie Earl (40 games, 20 goals, 23 assists, 43 points) <--- Or we can count Colin Murphy.
    ECHL: Chris St. Jacques (56 games, 14 goals, 20 assists, 34 points)

    Goalies...

    WHL: Justin Pogge (53 games, 24-21-5, 2.50 GAA, .907 %, 6 SO)
    OHL: None
    QMJHL: None
    AHL: Mikael Tellqvist (37 games, 21-13, 2.60 GAA, .920 %)
    Europe: None
    NCAA: None
    ECHL: Todd Ford (24 games, 16-4, 2.20 GAA, .934 %, 4 SO)
     
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    who actually has the most points out of prospects owned by the team in said league? or just top scoring offensive prospect?.. i'll go with the latter so i don't have to look up a bunch of numbers :D

    WHL - martin sagat
    OHL - john mitchell
    QMJHL - i don't know if we have one
    AHL - kyle wellwod :bow:
    Europe - alexander steen

    :edit in steber for the Q i guess, i didn't know he came over :)
     
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    Who is the top scoring prospect from your organization for these leagues...

    WHL: Masi Marjamaki
    OHL: Frank Rediker is our only guy here :joker:
    QMJHL: David Krejci
    AHL: Brad Boyes
    Europe: Sergei Zinovjev
    NCAA: Ben Walter

    And top goalie prospect from the leagues listed:

    WHL: none
    OHL: Mike Brown
    QMJHL: none
    AHL: Hannu Toivonen
    Europe: none
    NCAA: Jordan Sigalet
     
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    WHL: Matt Hansen
    OHL: Nathan McIver (only guy in OHL)
    QMJHL: Marc-Andre Bernier or Francois-Pierre Guenette
    AHL: Ryan Kesler (Jason King if you consider him a prospect still)
    Europe: Evgeny Gladskikh
    NCAA: Brent Skinner

    And top goalie prospect from the leagues listed:

    WHL: none
    OHL: none
    QMJHL: Julien Ellis-Plante (was near the tops of the league but his stats suffered in the closing months of the year due to overuse)
    AHL: Alexander Auld
    Europe: Lukas Mensator
    NCAA: Cory Schneider
     
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    He's been over for the past two seasons...even before the Leafs drafted him

    Anaheim:
    AHL: Konopka/Holmqvist - 37 points
    ECHL: Stepp - 6 points
    WHL: Getzlaf - 54 points
    OHL: Perry - 130 points
    QMJHL: Saunders - 28 points
    NCAA: Christie - 36 points
    European Leagues: Martensson - 34 points
     
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    yeah, well.. egg on my face ;)
     
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    And Lupul is only 21...
     
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    WHL: Kyle Chipchura (28 GP 14 G 18 A 32 P)
    OHL: Mark Flood (60 GP 4 G 37 A 41 P)
    QMJHL: Maxim Lapierre (69 GP 25 G 27 A 52 P)... Danny Stewart also 52 pts
    AHL: Tomas Plekanec (67 GP 23 G 29 A 52 P)
    Europe: Mikhail Grabovsky (63 GP 18 G 20 A 38 P)... Perezhogin close behind and still alive (46 GP 16 G 20 A 36 P)
    NCAA: J.T. Wyman (33 GP 5 G 6 A 11 P)
    ECHL: Cory Urquhart (53 GP 14 G 10 A 24 P)

    Goalies

    WHL: None
    OHL: None
    QMJHL: Jaroslav Halak (47 GP, 24-17-4, 2.76 GAA, 0.914 %)
    AHL: Yann Danis (43 GP, 21-15, 2.47 GAA, 0.921 %)
    Europe: Christopher Heino-Lindberg (tier 2 - 30 GP, 1.81 GAA, .927 %)
    NCAA: None
    ECHL: Olivier Michaud (37 GP, 16-13-6, 2.61 GAA, 0.916 %)
     
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    in europe i say christopher heuno lingber , no
     
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    Don't forget Christopher Heino-Lindberg, 20 years old, and looks to be having a good year.

    Team GP G.AA SV%
    Hammarby Swe-2 30 1.81 .927
    Team Sweden U20 WJC-20 4 4.43 .852
    Hammarby J20 SuperElit 3 2.22 .944
     
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    Yep, I forgot about him even after he was at the WJC. Added him in.
     
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    AHL: Jared Aulin (54-9-24-33)
    WHL: Eric Fehr (71-59-52-111)
    OHL: None
    QMJHL: None
    NCAA: Travis Morin (36-12-19-31) ... Bourque had just 23pts in 34 games.
    RUS: Alexander Semin (50-19-11-30) ... Oveckin has 27pts in 37 games.
    FIN: Sami Lepisto (55-7-18-25)
    SEL: Johnny Oduya (49-2-4-6)
    SwissA: Peter Guggisberg (36-12-7-19)
     
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    WHL- John Lammers(16 goals, 30 assists, 46 points)
    OHL- B.J. Crombeen(31 goals, 18 assists, 49 points)
    QMJHL- Francis Wathier(15 goals, 18 assists, 33 points)
    AHL- Steve Ott(17 goals, 21 assists, 38 points)
    Europe-
    Finland- Jussi Jokinen(23 goals, 24 assists, 57 points; Highest scoring prospect in the country)
    Sweden- Yared Hagos(6 goals, 15 assists, 21 points)
    Czech Republic- Vojtech Polak(2 goals, 7 assists, 9 points)
    Russia- Alexei Tereschenko(3 goals, 6 assists, 9 points)
    Belarus- Artem Chernov(7 goals, 8 assists, 15 points)
    NCAA- Gino Guyer(11 goals, 19 assists, 30 points)
    ECHL- David Bararuk(14 goals, 22 assists, 36 points)

    Goalies

    WHL- None
    OHL- Eero Kilpelainen(14-17-5, 3.29 GAA, .900 sv%)
    QMJHL- None
    AHL- Mike Smith(15-15-2, 2.47 GAA, .911 sv%)
    Europe- Tobias Stephan(19-20-5, 2.82 GAA, .899 sv%)
    NCAA- None
    ECHL- None
     
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    but no longer considered a prospect by HF's rules, because he's already played more then 65 games in the NHL.
     
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    King'sPawn Enjoy the chaos

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    WHL: Konstantin Pushkarev - 69 GP, 22 G, 30 A, 52 Pts
    OHL: Only have goalies
    QMJHL: Uh... Eric Neilson - 54 GP, 13 G, 13 A, 26 Pts
    AHL: Mike Cammalleri - 66 GP, 40 G, 52 A, 92 Pts
    Europe: Tuukka Mantyla (SEL) - 48 GP, 8 G, 14 A, 22 Pts
    NCAA: Jeff Tambellini - 40 GP, 21 G, 31 A, 52 Pts
    ECHL: Connor James - 43 GP, 17 G, 24 A, 41 Pts

    Goalies (with best stats)
    WHL: None
    OHL: Danny Taylor - 31 GP, 2.64 GAA, .911 SV%, 2 SO
    QMJHL: None
    AHL: Adam Hauser - 27 GP, 2.02 GAA, .93 SV%, 5 SO
    Europe: Carl Grahn (Fin Jr.) - 30 GP, 3.28 GAA, .901 SV%, 1 SO
    NCAA: Matt Zaba - 2.46 GAA, .916 SV%
    ECHL: Barry Brust - 36 GP, 1.93 GAA, .928 SV%, 4 SO
     
  17. leafaholix*

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    Nobody cares about HF's criteria.

    He's still a prospect... as in the Ducks antipicate great things for him.

    Number of games don't count, atleast not in this thread. HF's criteria is flawed.
     
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    Best scorers (not necessarily best prospects):

    WHL: Nigel Dawes (Kootenay Ice 63GP-50G-26A-76PTS)
    OHL: Jakub Petruzalek (Ottawa 67s 59GP-23G-40A-63PTS)
    QMJHL: Bruce Graham (Moncton Wildcats 46GP-23G-18A-41PTS)
    AHL: Dominic Moore (Hartford Wolfpack 66GP 16G-29A-45PTS)
    Europe: Jarkko Immonen (JYP 54G-19G-28A-47PTS)
    NCAA: Darin Olver (Northern Michigan 40GP-9G-34A-43PTS)
    ECHL: Lee Falardeau (Charlotte Checkers 47GP-17G-12A-29PTS)

    Goalies:

    AHL: Jason LaBarbera (Hartford Wolfpack 0.933sv% 1.85GAA)
    Europe: Henrik Lundqvist (Frolunda SEL 0.935sv% 1.79GAA)
    NCAA: Alvaro Montoya (Michigan 0.895sv% 2.52GAA)
    ECHL: Dan Blackburn (Victoria Salmon Kings 0.892sv% 3.54GAA)
     
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    Although this might be better served in another thread but,

    Suggestions on how to improve the criteria?
     
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    Calgary:
    WHL: C Boyd 61pts
    OHL: C Tardif 65pts
    QMJHL: D Pardy 39pts
    AHL: RW Kobasew 63pts
    Europe: Troubachev 26pts

    Goalie
    AHL Krahn 15-10-0-2 5SO 2.5gaa 0.920sv%
     
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  22. leafaholix*

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    I'm not sure one person can come up with the/a right way, but I think you need to actually look up the meaning of the word "prospect" and not have guys like Lupul, Stajan, etc... completely scratched off the site at age 21 while players like Brad Leeb still make the site (recently graduated).

    NHL managers and scouts still look at these players (Stajan, Lupul, etc...) as prospects, because they understand the meaning of the word.

    It tremendously messes up the organizational rankings, which are to represent the calibre of prospects within the organizations, rather than the players under 26 years of age who have yet to play 65 games in the NHL or whatever the criteria.
     
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    CHL
    WHL - Zack Fitzgerald -D- Seattle - 65gp - 7g 18a - 25pts
    OHL - Jonathin Lehun -C-Owen Sound- 58gp - 17g 33a - 50pts
    QMJHL -Jonathin Boutin -RW- 70gp - 23g 30a - 53pts

    NCAA
    ECAC - Lee Stempiniak -RW- 35gp - 14g 29a - 43pts
    WCHA - David Backes -C- 38gp - 17g 23a - 40 pts

    Europe
    SEL - Carl Soderberg -C- 38gp - 0g 5a - 5pts
    RSL - Viktor Alexandrov -RW- 50gp - 8g 10a - 18pts
    FINjr - Juha-Matti Aaltonen -RW- 30gp - 26g 21a - 47pts

    AHL
    Jay McClement -C- 66gp - 12g 26a - 38pts
    Jon DiSalvatore - RW - 66gp - 20g 18a - 38pts
    Blake Evans -C- 66gp - 14g 34a - 38pts

    ECHL
    Justin Maiser -LW- 56gp - 16g 13a - 29pts

    Goaltenders

    WHL - Marek Schwarz - Vancouver - 56 GP - 2.67 GAA 26W 24L 4T .900 SP
    AHL - Jason Bacashiua - 28gp - 2.31 GAA 16W 10L .909 SP
    ECHL - Chris Beckford-Tseu - 26gp - 2.70 GAA 9W 12L .909 SP
    FIN - Tuomas Nissinen - 16gp - 3.96 GAA 1W 1L 12T .896 SP

    *Can't read Barulin's stats
     
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    I full heartedly agree that there's a balance that needs to be made, because at the same time you can't have someone like Rick Nash and Jay Bouwmeester still be considered a prospect.
    The 65 game rule was established to try to judge when a player has made it to the NHL and could be considered a viable NHLer. Hockey's Future is covering prospects, not young, up and coming NHL players. In the case of Lupul and Stajan, I think everyone can agree, the only reason they are in the AHL is due to the lockout. To me, that makes them NHL players.
    Do their respective teams hope they improve and have big plans for them in the future? Yes, most definitely, but the same can be said for a player like Nash or Bouwmeester.
    On the other end of the stick, you have players like Mikael Holmqvist who should still be considered a prospect, despite an older age. Because of circumstances like playing in the European leagues or in the college leagues, they are a bit older but no less of a prospect.
    And if you're going to include players who've done their time in Europe and college, why should you exclude players who've needed some extra time in the minors?
    Anyway, I know this sounds like I'm taking the company line with this whole strategy, but I have had similar thoughts like yourself on who's being included and who's being excluded. The problem with too many clauses or stipulations is it gets confusing for the casual reader (hell, some people will be asking why Holmqvist at 25 is still a prospect). I'd be interested to continue this conversation if you have anymore thoughts, although may I suggest PMs or making an alternate thread so we don't hijack this one.
     
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    Chicago Blackhawks:

    WHL: Colin Fraser 24 44 68 pts, 148 pims
    QMJHL: NONE
    OHL: David Bolland: 34 51 85 pts, 97 pims
    NCAA: Jacob Dowell 12 14 26 pts, 70 pims

    EUROPE:

    SEL: Jonas Nordqvist 16 16 32 pts, 12 pims
    FIN: Jari Viukhola: 15 16 31 pts, 30 pims (44 games)
    RSL: Alex Zotkin: 4 7 11 pts, 32 pims (25 games)

    ** Pro**

    AHL: Rene Borque: 28 22 50 pts, 90 pims
    ECHL: Vlad Gusev: 6 11 17pts, 90 pims

    **GOALIES**

    QMJHL: Corey Crawford: 2.47 28 16 6 (W/L/T) 6 Shutouts .920 sv %
    ECHL: Mike Brodeur 2.85 17 15 6 .922 sv %

    AHL: Craig Anderson 1.74 8 1 1 2 Shutouts .939 sv % (was injured)
    Mike Leighton 2.00 20 16 3 7 Shutouts .922 sv %

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