nowhereman
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Demko definitely has elite potential. He's been carrying a very mediocre Utica team for a while now.Starter not elite. Demko and Oettinger are the next tier below, but could be starters too.
Demko definitely has elite potential. He's been carrying a very mediocre Utica team for a while now.Starter not elite. Demko and Oettinger are the next tier below, but could be starters too.
You aren't being biased.
Oettinger had a .915 in college hockey this season. Thats against players his age. Not even a men's league. He's a good prospect, and its fair to say he might be on par with those guys eventually, but right now its not close.
Demko might be closer, but he doesn't have the body of work that the other guys have. Worse league, SV%'s in pro hockey aren't even close. None of those guys are putting up a .905, which is what Demko did two seasons ago. He was better this past year.
Alright, thanks, but the way some people talk about those two...jeez lol.You aren't being biased.
Oettinger had a .915 in college hockey this season. Thats against players his age. Not even a men's league. He's a good prospect, and its fair to say he might be on par with those guys eventually, but right now its not close.
Demko might be closer, but he doesn't have the body of work that the other guys have. Worse league, SV%'s in pro hockey aren't even close. None of those guys are putting up a .905, which is what Demko did two seasons ago. He was better this past year.
No, they are not a tier higher, because these 5 prospects are just so close potential-wise. That, and goalies are a mystery anyway.Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s totally fair to rank the Russians higher, but I don’t think it’s reasonable to claim they’re a tier higher.
Kid can play. His only knock has been his size, he’s roughly around 6’1 to 6’2. That’s small for today’s goalies but he does have talent.im a flyer fan , so this is a biased view point but i feel like there is something really special about Carter Hart.
I actually had this conversation with a few others the other day. I think he is good, but definitely doesn't deserve the "best goalie prospect" praise he keeps getting.im a flyer fan , so this is a biased view point but i feel like there is something really special about Carter Hart.
I actually had this conversation with a few others the other day. I think he is good, but definitely doesn't deserve the "best goalie prospect" praise he keeps getting.
He absolutely gobsmacked the WHL this past season. He was 3.6 standard deviations above the mean the season before, with a .927sv%. .947 over 41 games is absolutely freaking absurd.I actually had this conversation with a few others the other day. I think he is good, but definitely doesn't deserve the "best goalie prospect" praise he keeps getting.
Yea you're right, there is a lot of proof against me, but relax. I admitted I may be wrong with my original post. I had him at number 3 in the world, but then again, he very well could be behind one or two of the Russians. He's only in juniors. And isn't this year his only monster season? That I am not sure about. How consistent he is.But there is so much evidence that would fly in the face of your statement. You are more than welcome to have your own opinion, the problem is that anyone can call your opinion as ridiculous and then provide copious amount of proof as to why that is the case. You on the other hand have yet to b back up your opinion iwth any sort of proof
Yea you're right, there is a lot of proof against me, but relax. I admitted I may be wrong with my original post. I had him at number 3 in the world, but then again, he very well could be behind the Russians. He's only in juniors. And isn't this year his only monster season? That I am not sure about. How consistent he is.
By the way, did you provide proof? Or are you only listening to other Flyers fans? Not trying to insult. Just wondering.
I know of his records. Didn't know they were that good. But I'm always weary when a prospect goes from underrated to overrated in such a short time span. Like I said, maybe I'm wrong, but wasn't Stolarz supposed to be the savior as well? All I'm saying is that prospects, especially goalie prospects, are very hard to project. Especially when they have one amazing season. We will see how he does in the pros. I still feel like the hype is crazy, but yes, Hart has the potential to be one of the best goalies in the league. But like I said, the hype is just too much for me. I've seen a couple people say Hart can lead an NHL team to a Stanley Cup by himself.i feel like the proof is well known. Broke about as many chl records as you can. First time 2x chl goal tender of the year award. Probably should have been 3. Dominated the World juniors. Finished the season with a .949 sv percentage in the WHL which is the highest scoring league. His junior level stats are eye popping and going forward he could and should be considered the greatest CHL goalie of all time. That is quite some praise.
there is probably not a more intriguing prospect the flyers have right now.
I disagree. I think there’s still lots of elite goalies coming up at least potentially. It’s just that there’s not as much of a gap as there used to be because mechanically all young goalies are being so well coached now.Man, reading this list and the other suggestions is kind of frightening. Not only is there a lack of true starting goaltender talent in the NHL but there really isn't much in the way of blue-chip prospects coming through.
Hart, Samsonov, Oettinger, Demko and this Gustavsson kid Ottawa got in the Brassard deal should be a good 1 as well. Those are your top 5 IMO.
He absolutely gobsmacked the WHL this past season. He was 3.6 standard deviations above the mean the season before, with a .927sv%. .947 over 41 games is absolutely freaking absurd.
The last starting goalie who finished over .930 was Patrik Bartosak in 2012-13, and he was a very promising goaltender. Still is a very good goaltender, just a **** person. Before that it was Darcy Kuemper in 2010-11.
Now, goaltenders are voodoo, so it's entirely possible that Hart doesn't end up an elite goalie. But those WHL results even without his latest season are very promising. With his latest season, AFAIK, they're unheard of.
I know of his records. Didn't know they were that good. But I'm always weary when a prospect goes from underrated to overrated in such a short time span. Like I said, maybe I'm wrong, but wasn't Stolarz supposed to be the savior as well? All I'm saying is that prospects, especially goalie prospects, are very hard to project. Especially when they have one amazing season. We will see how he does in the pros. I still feel like the hype is crazy, but yes, Hart has the potential to be one of the best goalies in the league. But like I said, the hype is just too much for me. I've seen a couple people say Hart can lead an NHL team to a Stanley Cup by himself.