in the land of make believe, sure!Matthews should be 7-8
Hedman is absolutely the best Dman in the league, that doesnt necessarily mean he had the best season but his overall body of work and talent level is higher than any other dman currently. Thats not to say Makar/Fox/Heiskanen cant overcome him at some point but they havent proven enough yet to be ranked above him based on one season of being better.Kind of shocked by this poll result.
I really don’t understand Hedman going 5th. He’s the 3rd best defenceman, but somehow is the 5th best player overall? I wouldn’t have him go off the board until around 10th.
How is it that crazy to rank Panarin and Hedman ahead of Matthews? Cus it isn't.in the land of make believe, sure!
Hedman is absolutely the best Dman in the league, that doesnt necessarily mean he had the best season but his overall body of work and talent level is higher than any other dman currently. Thats not to say Makar/Fox/Heiskanen cant overcome him at some point but they havent proven enough yet to be ranked above him based on one season of being better.
Hedman is the best defenseman in the league when its not a covid-riddled seasonKind of shocked by this poll result.
I really don’t understand Hedman going 5th. He’s the 3rd best defenceman, but somehow is the 5th best player overall? I wouldn’t have him go off the board until around 10th.
If people ranked by points Draisaitl would have been comfortably the 2nd best player picked in these polls.Crazy.
The same people who cry about "watching the games" literally just rank players by point totals.
I just googled best player in the NHL 2010 and the first list has Malkin below 5.
The 10 best NHL players of the decade
Hedman then Matthews then Panarin then Crosby then Marchand then Pastranak
Personally, I wouldn’t say his talent level is the highest. I get what you’re saying in terms of body of work. If that’s a key factor for you, I understand the decision.
Crosby will probably go in front of Panarin in this poll too, which doesn’t make sense to me for the same reasons I’d have Makar/Fox ahead of Hedman.
coming from a guy who was voting FlyByDrai as the 2nd best player in the league .The fact that one dimensional Matthews is getting a single vote over guys like Hedman, Panarin and Vas is a laugh.
I think you're putting too much stock into a shortened season. Hedman's Conn Smythe run last year was better than anything Makar or Fox have done. It's not a Crosby situation where he hasn't been at his best for awhile and probably gets too much leeway for past accomplishments based on his name and career. Hedman is still in his prime and injury seems to be the only reason he didn't perform up to his usual level this year.
Good write up. I will say again it surprises me Hedman is widely considered the best defenceman in the league. For me its Makar. Undoubtedly some recency bias with TB's latest cup run. I doubt Hedman would have been considered the best on this forum had a poll been done 6 weeks ago.I feel like I come off anti-Hedman sometimes because I’m against the consensus on this debate, but I love Hedman as a player.
The main argument seems to be that Hedman wasn’t himself this year and will unquestionably return to top form, where as Makar and Fox, I guess, have plateaued, or will get worse. I just don’t think it makes a lot of sense to believe that a soon to be 31-year old who was worse this season, is going to be better than the 22 and 23-year old phenoms next season.
We can certainly go back two years. These are the numbers combined from the last two seasons. One season from where Hedman is banged up and two seasons from Makar just breaking into the league.
Hedman:
Regular season:
100 points in 120 games
.83 PPG
+32
CF%: 53.44
GF%: 57.22
XGF%: 53.91%
Playoffs:
40 points in 46 games
.86 PPG
+14
Makar:
Regular season:
94 points in 101 games
.93 PPG
+29
CF%: 56.21
GF%: 61.63
XGF%: 57.35%
Playoffs:
25 points in 25 games
1.0 PPG
+12
Good write up. I will say again it surprises me Hedman is widely considered the best defenceman in the league. For me its Makar. Undoubtedly some recency bias with TB's latest cup run. I doubt Hedman would have been considered the best on this forum had a poll been done 6 weeks ago.
i wouldnt have voted for him until 6th at the earliest, but i dont have to worry about that anymoreYou’re right, should be top 3 at least. OP’s saltiness is hilarious too
coming from a guy who was voting FlyByDrai as the 2nd best player in the league .
Matthews defensive metrics look selke caliber compared to Draisaitl's
coming from a guy who was voting FlyByDrai as the 2nd best player in the league .
Matthews defensive metrics look selke caliber compared to Draisaitl's
At the mid point of the season some were talking about Hedman as the clear front runner to the Norris and possible Hart finalist. It isn't recency at all.Good write up. I will say again it surprises me Hedman is widely considered the best defenceman in the league. For me its Makar. Undoubtedly some recency bias with TB's latest cup run. I doubt Hedman would have been considered the best on this forum had a poll been done 6 weeks ago.
1) Connor Mcdavid
2) Nikita Kucherov
3) Nathan MacKinnon
4) Leon Draisaitl (AKA: FlyByDrai)
comment who to add next
add:
Mirro Heiskanen x3
Steven Stamkos x4
Kirill Kaprizov
Thomas Chabot
Jakob Chychrun
Johnny Gaudreau
And only a certain German player got a special nickname. OP's mad he got ranked in that place. So petty I love it.Is it coincidence that you put Matthews at the top of the page?
And only a certain German player got a special nickname. OP's mad he got ranked in that place. So petty I love it.