Discussion in 'Fugu's Business of Hockey Forum' started by BenchBrawl, Mar 12, 2011.
who are the top 5 owners in term of influence on the league?
Lieweke (representing AEG - Anschutz)
Bill Wirtz -- before he died, not sure about Rocky
I wouldn't put Ilitch on the list. I don't think he gets along with Gary all that well.
why is Molson not there?
with the cash he brings in and the number of fans of his team?
He's new to the club, and it is an old boys' club. Dolan of the NY Rangers doesn't even go to meetings. He had a kerfuffle with the NHL over website rights, and lost a revenue stream the Rangers had developed when the NHL 'nationalized' team web properties.
Hotchkiss obviously had a lot of pull for a while being the Chairman of the BOG, but I doubt Murray Edwards and the rest will be able to mimic that when Hotchkiss offloads everything. Harley had the benefit of being in a seat of power in that 'old boys club' to make up for the fact he was an owner for a small-market team.
is Molson really new , I mean the ties with the molson in the NHL are pretty old even if it's not exactly him.
maybe Wirtz Jr, maybe Molson Jr Jr Jr
Leopold (who they seem to love for some reason)
some of the owners that are hard to place are guys like Checketts, Kroenke, Leonsis, Jaimeson, Melnyk.
respected but hated list: Illitch, Dolan, Lou
MLSE? I don't know if I would put them in top 5. I don't think anyone would have a hard time being successful.....off ice that is!!
In terms of influence...... they bring in alolt of cash, some of it they even give to the league.
Jacobs is chairman of the board of governors.
A notorious hardliner when it comes to union relations. He basically personifies the stereotype of the "rich old white men" running the league.
Jacobs is the guy that pushed to renew Bettman.
Molson is not high on the list particularily after they went public on Bettman this week.
It truly is an old boys club which is sad to say the least.
Leopold is up there. The guys who were bringing in a lot of money were not as close to GB as the owners who were FIXATED on cost-certainty during the lockout.
MLSE, Dolan, Snider etc were doing quite well under the old system and in the past wanted to screw over the small markets.
I'd say Molson just went to the back of the line, he's even behind the empty
chair that represents the Coyotes.
Pittsburgh is currently at about 67 million in payroll, and without their 2 best players. Most owners would assume the year is lost, but Mario and Burkle allowed Shero to get Kovalev and Neal so they could be competitive
This thread on the governor power brokers might be of interest to those trying to rank the BOG.
I don't think Dolan belongs on the list anymore, seeing he sued the NHL and lost, and then was countersued, iirc.
I do remember one media report that said he stopped going to league meetings after that.
Lou is very influential as a GM. I think he often sits at the BoG meetings for NJD ownership.
There was a story in the Globe and Mail that said that during the lockout, Tanenbaum was ready to accept a 25% player salary roll back and a soft cap, but got shouted down by the rest of the owners at the thought of giving up on a hard cap.
If true, that might indicate that MLSE is not as influential as you would think.
I also would bet that there are power alliances or grouping among the owners on various issues.
The western teams have a lot of common issues around travel costs, scheduling and alignment. They would obviously have very different positions than the Atlantic and NE teams.
There is clearly a Canadian - American division as they have a lot at stake with respect to broadcast revenues and exchange rates. There is also likely a small market - big market split.
This would make sense yet during the last round of discussions regarding scheduling, which maybe touched on alignment, there was a clear break within the West. The West Coast teams preferred having more games in their divisions for obvious travel regions, as did Nashville (for cost reasons), and having a fan base that seemed to prefer the regional rivalry. The older teams with older rivalries outside that structure obviously took a different stance-- especially the O-6 teams that wanted to play the other Original Six more frequently.
Nevertheless I believe that some owners are definitely viewed as being bigger players. Guys like Ilitch and Dolan who "could" be more active have given up due to butting heads with either Bettman (in Dolan's case especially), or Ilitch (famous battles with Jacobs, Wirtz, Karmanos and previously Davidson/PSE.... but only because someone suggested SE Michigan could support another NHL team, say at The Palace). Devellano made a comment once that the team was tired of having the NHL just take and take and take without ever addressing their concerns for their fans.
He just joined the club, and is likely too new to have any real influence, but I read that Terry Pegula's fortune places him as the 2nd richest team owner in the NHL, after Philip Anschutz of the Kings.
I wonder if that fact will give him any additional clout in league affairs.
Why would his personal wealth give him any clout? I'd think it means nothing, unless he is willing to share it.
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