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Leachmeister2000 said:
I think he'll suprise a number of people this year... Just my personal opinion.
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I think he'll suprise a number of people this year... Just my personal opinion.
Reveille said:
Yeah, there's nothing more unreasonable about you having Setoguchi at 7 then me having Ryan at 5. Just hunches.
Reveille said:
Don't forget about Brendan Mikkelson from the Portland Winter Hawks. He led all D-men in scoring at the U18 World Junior Cup with 6pts and has good size and skating.
Leachmeister2000 said:
Keep in mind he put up however many points he did on one of the worst teams in WHL history. I agree that he could definitely surprise some people this year.
Lefty said:
I agree Setoguchi is one of my favorite prospects for this years draft, IMO he will go top 7.
HabLover said:
While he may be deserving of a top 15 bid, a good tournament is not enough to shoot a guy from obscurity into a top 15 or top 10 IMO. As of now, I'd considerably put him for consideration around 25-40. It all depends on how his season goes as it could boost him along with many others. And that is what makes this draft so scary. As of now we havent seen the Andrew Ladd's or Lauri Korpikoski's.
OneSpeedOnly said:
Can anyone tell me what teams these kids play for, I only know Crosby and Brule.
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While I happen to share your opinion on Cogliano being a realistic 2005 top 5 pick, I do question how much you've actually seen him play, considering last month you thought he was a defenseman. No disrespect intended, since you do seem to know a fair bit about the game.
X-SHARKIE said:Well no one knows were they well go but. I think your missing Andrew Cogliano. I love watching this guy play, and if he works on his hands over the summer, he could be the #2 pick in the draft IMO. Daniel Bertram also deserves a shot at the top 5, although alot of people do. SImply put this is going to be an amazing draft
While I happen to share your opinion on Cogliano being a realistic 2005 top 5 pick, I do question how much you've actually seen him play, considering last month you thought he was a defenseman. No disrespect intended, since you do seem to know a fair bit about the game.
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88Nords19 said:
I have never seen him play....but from what I hear and read he seems to have what I look for in a young player. The reason I listed him as a defenesman, I can't remember doing this but I bet I said that because his name looks rather familiar to Colaiacovo. I've only seen a handfull of 2005 players. Mior, Lattendresse, Rask, Anikeenko, Lashoff, Ryan, Staal on the top of my head thats all I can name.
My guess:
1) Sidney Crosby (C) - Montreal Canadiens (Yeah, I still believe...)
2) Gilbert Brule (C) - NY Rangers
3) Guillaume Latendresse (W) - Washington Capitals
4) Teemo Lakkso (D) - Columbus Blue Jackets
5) Vitaly Anikeenko (D) - Pittsburgh Penguins
12) Chris Gawlik (C) - San Jose Sharks
1) Sidney Crosby (C) - Montreal Canadiens (Yeah, I still believe...)
2) Gilbert Brule (C) - NY Rangers
3) Guillaume Latendresse (W) - Washington Capitals
4) Teemo Lakkso (D) - Columbus Blue Jackets
5) Vitaly Anikeenko (D) - Pittsburgh Penguins
12) Chris Gawlik (C) - San Jose Sharks
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rt said:
I saw a highlight of his on TSN and from the U-17 a little while back. Never actually seen him play a game, but he can make you get out of your seat with his plays. I do love watching his stuff and look forward to seeing more from him.
I see Carey Price as a Mid 2nd rounder(Top 50). Just because he had one really solid performance doesnt mean he has just leapfrogged two great goalies that will potentiallly both be Top 20 picksCanucks-R-best said:
As much as I like Setoguchi, I high doubt he will be in the Top 7. I really hope he does but there is just to much talent to jump ahead of. I personally had him at 11.
Couldnt say it better myself. Next year is huge in determining where you want to finish. I had Mikkelson at around 60 and one tourney made me feel is up around 35-40. Its goin to be a great and exciting season in the CHL as players will be pushing hard to get into that 1st round!TKLOOCH22 said:
Newfie Bruin said:
Price finished the year strong for the Tri City Americans last year and had a great playoffs! It hasn't just been one solid performance. He also beat out the other top '87 goalies in Canada and in the end was Canada's #1 goalie. Levasseur and Moir were more widely talked about before this tourney than Price was.
I will agree though that this coming year is huge, for not only Price, but every prospect, because when Canada won the U18's in 2002, the goalies were Kevin Nastiuk and Josh Lepp. As I said Canada won that tourney, but Lepp is not much of a prospect anymore and Nastiuk wasn't a high draft and hasn't played for Canada since.
Newfie Bruin said:
I watched Price in the camp in Calgary and he has some great tools. He is a terrific skater and puck handler in addition to being big and quick. He was simply better than any of the other goalies there. We hear a lot more about Price out west than you do back east. I think most of the eastern posters are basing their judgement on a goaltender they have never seen play or saw him play at the U17 tournament. I did some poking around and couldn't find any other 16 yr old goalie who played in the CHL playoffs last year. According to things I've read Price was outstanding in beating Portland in the playoffs 4 games to 1. Not saying anything against two Mior and Levasseur but I don't think Price is given the respect I think he deserves after seeing him matched against the other 2 in Calgary. Just defending a good western guy.
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DonutLine said:
amen brother....I know Price on a personal level....I as well am from Williams Lake and go to the same school as him, so im a bit biased but he is a friend and i hope he does well
Brule has the potential of a superstar, he could be a 50 goal scorer, 100 point player. He is super talented. I would say he plays like Forsberg ( with his gritty play and the way he moves on the ice) but with more of a snipers edge and less of the playmaking edge, though Brule is also great with vision and passing capablities he just looks for the goal 1st and he likes to load the net with shots.
db23 said:Yeah, yeah, the whole world is conspiring against the Chicago Blackhawks.
Back to the topic, I can't see why Brule would go #2 overall. I would hate to try to slot them this early, but my bet is that Brule doesn't make the top 5. I see him as being very similar to Scottie Upshall or Jamie Lundmark and going somewhere similar in the draft as to where those guys were taken. Somewhere between 5 and 10 overall. Andrew Cogliano has bested him in the only two times they've played with/against each other. Jack Johnson has looked superb playing against older players at the U.S. U20 tournament. That doesn't take into account Europeans either.
I hope you're right db, I won't have a top 5 pick in my keeper league draft and I would love to be able to nab Brule. If this happens in reality, I would be shocked. I agree that it is difficult to slot these prospects at this time, but if he slides out of the top 5, then 4 GM's should lose their jobs!
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db23 said:
But Brule doesn't have the attitude question marks surrounding him. Tell me, how many times have you seen him play? He plays with an edge taht Schremp doesn't have (it is an awful comparison to begin with) and loking at some of his goals, you can see just how talented he is.
Watch Brule this year, when he is the Giants key player and then go around making your hugely overrated comments.
Not to wade into this too deep, but jsut keep in mind the ratings are going to change quite a bit by the end of the year, so this is actually a thread where bold statements may come true. After all, no one had heard of Andrew Ladd or Blake Wheeler (both top 5) a year ago, and there are numerous example of this every year. Specifically, no one had ever heard of Ed Jovanovski at this juncture in 1994, and he went first over all.
So try and hold off on things like "no way he goes top 5". The reality is none of us have much of an idea how these players have progressed. So much improvement can happens at this age that some of these guys might be completely different players.
But based on everything I've read, Brule sounds like the real deal. And I don't think Schremp is a very good example as being a better prospect at the same age given Schremp improved very little in his draft year. Brule also brings a heck of a lot more to the table than his offensive game. Schremp is completely one-dimensional.
So try and hold off on things like "no way he goes top 5". The reality is none of us have much of an idea how these players have progressed. So much improvement can happens at this age that some of these guys might be completely different players.
But based on everything I've read, Brule sounds like the real deal. And I don't think Schremp is a very good example as being a better prospect at the same age given Schremp improved very little in his draft year. Brule also brings a heck of a lot more to the table than his offensive game. Schremp is completely one-dimensional.
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