Top 5 Defense all-time

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  1. BenchBrawl

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    What would your Top 5 defense of all-time be?

    ( I'm talking about the complete defensive unit on a team )
     
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    Bob Gainey - Bobby Clarke - Claude Provost
    Doug Harvey - Niklas Lidstrom
    Jacques Plante

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    EDIT: if you think the best defence is offence:

    Bobby Hull - Wayne Gretzky - Gordie Howe
    Bobby Orr - Paul Coffey
    Martin Brodeur
     
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    It's hard to beat that. I'd put Dryden in net over Plante though.
     
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    im talking about the 6 defensemen , that actually played together , and to name the 5 best you've seen

    lol sorry wasnt very clear
     
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    Scott Stevens-Brian Rafalski
    Ken Daneyko-Scott Niedermayer
    Colin White-Vladimir Malakhov

    Nicklas Lidstrom-Larry Murhpy
    Slava Fetisov-Vladimir Konstantinov
    Aaron Ward-Mattheau Dandenault?

    Best of recent times. The Devils roster is their D in the 2000 playoffs. Wings is their D from the 1997 playoffs. Not 100% on the wings 6th defenseman.
     
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    1.Bobby Orr
    2.Bobby Orr
    3.Bobby Orr
    4.Bobby Orr
    5.Ray Bourque
     
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    Rouse and Ward were the 3rd pairing.
     
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    well, i guess i should complete the late 90s/early 00s powerhouse d-corps.

    bourque foote
    blake klemm
    devries skoula

    hatcher matvichuk
    zubov sydor
    ludwig chambers
     
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    Bruins best 6 d-men unit.
    Bobby Orr - Dallas Smith
    Ted Green - Don Awrey
    Rick Smith - Carol Vadnais

    Best Bruins d-men I've seen
    Bobby Orr - Ray Bourque
    Brad Park - Zdeno Chara
    Dallas Smith - Don Awrey

    Best Bruins All-Time d-man
    Bobby Orr - Ray Bourque
    Eddie Shore - Fern Flaman
    Dit Clapper - Brad Park
    Bob Armstrong - Lionel Hitchman
    Leo Boivin - Flash Hollett - Bill Quakenbush - Dalllas Smith - Pat Egan - Don Awrey - Zdeno Chara
     
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    Best All-Time NHL Hypothetical Defensive Unit (By Personnel)

    Bobby Orr - Raymond Bourque
    Doug Harvey - Eddie Shore
    Nicklas Lidstrom - Denis Potvin

    Larry Robinson

    Best Toronto Maple Leafs All-Time Defensive Unit (By Personnel)

    Borje Salming - King Clancy
    Tim Horton - Allen Stanley
    Carl Brewer - Harry Cameron

    Bill Barilko

    Best Toronto Maple Leafs Defensive Unit (1961-62 Defence)

    Tim Horton - Allen Stanley
    Carl Brewer - Bob Baun
    Al Arbour*

    *up until the 1967-68 expansion most teams utilized a five man rotation on defence and so plenty of blueliners ended up logging at least 25-30 minutes of ice-time per game. It was only with the post-Original Six era that clubs began to utilize three full pairings of defencemen per game.

    Best Toronto Maple Leafs Defensive Unit I've Seen (1992-93 Defence)

    Dave Ellett - Todd Gill
    Sylvain Lefebvre - Jamie Macoun
    Bob Rouse - Dmitri Mironov

    Best Five Defenceman I've been alive to watch and evaluate in my lifetime so far? (I'm 23 years old)

    1. Nicklas Lidstrom
    2. Chris Chelios
    3. Scott Niedermayer
    4. Chris Pronger
    5. Scott Stevens

    Honourable mention: Al MacInnis, Brian Leetch, Rob Blake, Slava Fetisov (did not witness his glory years of the 1980s unfortunately).
     
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    Few are answering the question according to the criteria. It's five defensemen on one team who played together at the same time, not over the course of a team's history.

    I'll go with the Leafs of the early 60's - Horton, Baun, Stanley, Brewer, Douglas.
     
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    WRONG

    See:
    As in name the 5 best complete defensive units (all three pairs on a team) that existed in real life, not hypothetical stuff.
     
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    It's so cool that Anaheim had both Niedermayer and Pronger together for a little while. Nicklas Lidstrom is definitely the best I've ever seen.
     
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    Nicklas Lidstrom-Paul Coffey
    Slava Fetisov-Vladimir Konstaninov
    Mike Ramsey/Marc Bergevin-Bob Rouse

    I believe was Detroit's typical defense in 1995 and 1996. In 1995, Ramsey was on the third pairing, and in 1996, he was replaced with Bergevin. Remember, Coffey didn't fall off the face of the earth until the Western Finals in 1996 against Colorado. If we use the 1995 playoff defense, with a Norris-winning Coffey and the newly acquired Fetisov, I think it's better than the 1997 defense. Coffey was spectacular that year, and while his defense was well, what you would expect from him, it was him and Fedorov that carried Detroit to the Cup Finals by virtue of their skating. No one could stop them from skating around everyone in the neutral zone and leading the rush; at least until Lemaire clogged the neutral zone with 8342 bodies, and did stop them.
     
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    We went this long without talking about the "big 3" from Montreal? I know there is a bit of a drop off but let's use the 1977 team: (not sure on all the pairings)

    Savard-Robinson
    Lapointe- Bouchard
    Chartraw-Nyrop
     
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    probably the best of all-time
     
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    Best I have seen as a Hawk fan.

    Chelios-Suter
    Steve Smith-Eric Weinrich
    Keith Carney-Cam Russell

    Belfour in net
     
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    !954-55 Bruins (but only finished 4th)
    *Leo Boivin
    *Fernie Flaman
    *Bill Quakenbush
    Bob Armstrong
    Warren Godfrey
    Hal Laycoe

    1938-39 Bruins (won Stanley Cup)
    *Dit Clapper
    *Eddie Shore
    Flash Hollett
    Jack Crawford
    Jack Porland
    Jack Shewchuk


    * Hall of Fame
     
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    1979

    1979

    Savard,Robinson,Lapointe, Langway, Engblom and Chartraw/Lupien.
     
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    Can anyone beat that? Seriously?
     
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    No, but how about this crew?

    1972-73
    *Guy Lapointe - *Serge Savard
    Bob Murdoch - *Jacques Laperriere
    Pierre Bouchard - *Larry Robinson

    * Hall Of Fame
     
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    Or this not to shabby a crew? (Top 4 anyways)

    1985-86
    *Larry Robinson - +Chris Chelios
    Petr Svoboda - Craig Ludwig
    Tom Kurvers - Gaston Gingrais / Rick Green

    * Hall Of Fame
    + Hall Of Fame to be
     
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    Best I've Seen
    Bobby Orr
    Raymond Bourque
    Larry Robinson (Saw his Nova Scotia Voyageurs play Terry O'Reilly's Boston Braves at the old Garden)
    Denis Potvin
    Nicklas Lidstrom
    Paul Coffey

    All apologies to:
    Scott Stevens
    Brad Park
    Al MacInnis
    Guy Lapointe
    Serge Savard
    Rod Langway
    Chris Chelios
    Borje Salming
    Larry Murphy
    Brian Leetch
    Rob Blake
    Chris Pronger
     
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    FLYERS(?)
    Mark Howe - Eric Desjardins
    Jimmy Watson - Tom Bladon
    Andre Dupont - Joe Watson

    Ed Van Impe
    Kjell Samuelsson
    Chris Therrien
    Brad Marsh
     

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