Top 30 for 2008

[Greg7]

In the WHL:

Beach is the best prospect; should be top 5 overall right now I'd say. Boychuk is overrated imo; I wouldn't have him any earlier than mid or late first. Schenn and Teubert are closer than that I think; both look to be likely top 15 picks. Wahl maybe falls somewhere mid first round I'd guess. Hard to judge for me because I'm only really familiar with the WHL, but that is roughly where I would have those guys right now. Obviously subject to massive changes throughout the year.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

I'm not sure where this David Toews hype is coming from? Just the name?

I scouted Shattuck several times this year, and Toews wasn't anything special. To his credit he's a smart player who sees the ice well and is a good play maker. His hands are decent and he thinks the game well. That said he's much smaller than his brother and his skating is poor.


I was just as impressed with Shattuck's other 2008 eligibles such as Brock Montpetit, David Carle, and Jordan Murray.

In fact the best prospect on the team this year was a 2009 eligible, Stepan Novotny.

If Toews handles himself well in the USHL this season and works on his skating, then his stock will go up. But he's not top 10 material.

Toews had an impressive U17 Tourny last year. He was one of the big reasons Manitoba made it to the finals.

I think if he went to Brandon he might be a top 20 pick

 

[Velociraptor]

Toews had an impressive U17 Tourny last year. He was one of the big reasons Manitoba made it to the finals.

I think if he went to Brandon he might be a top 20 pick

exactly, playing in the CHL gives more scouts to look at him. for instance if mayorov was north american he'd be gone in the first 5. I think Toews should go there.

 

[Dominator13]

what's so special about Drew Doughtry?

 

[JEI]

what's so special about Drew Doughtry?

His ability to dominate from the back end. Big hits, big time offence.

 

[MikeC44]

You must also devalue certain CHL Jrs on the NA list now because many more JR A and U.S. Jr and H.S. players will be preferred by NHL teams than ever before in higher draft positions because they can hold their rights longer as they go through the NCAA ..

Haven't NHL teams always been able to hold onto NCAA players' rights longer than CHL players?

 

[Talent Analyst]

Where Keven Lessard ? He's a tremendous player with great skills . Very underrated player . Hope he'll get draft , because he can be a steal .

 

[ralphie86]

exactly, playing in the CHL gives more scouts to look at him. for instance if mayorov was north american he'd be gone in the first 5. I think Toews should go there.

The Shattuck to North Dakota path didn't hurt Jonathan's ranking very much. Or Zach Parise's. Or Drew Stafford's. He'll do just fine without the CHL.

 

[Velociraptor]

which other players from Shattuck are elgible for 08

 

[Joe Hallenback]

The Shattuck to North Dakota path didn't hurt Jonathan's ranking very much. Or Zach Parise's. Or Drew Stafford's. He'll do just fine without the CHL.

David will have to wait an extra year before he gets to the NCAA. It looks like he will be playing in the USHL this year. Why he wouldnt want to report to Brandon who have a very good program and have churned out NHL prospects like crazy in the last few years is beyond me.

 

[Azzurri90FC]

As an Islander fan, you will undertand why I am asking for some info. Give me you top five players for the upcoming draft and give comparisons or just general info. I know it is early but humor me. I currently need something to look foward to.

 

[hfboardsuser]

I'm not sure where this David Toews hype is coming from? Just the name?

I scouted Shattuck several times this year, and Toews wasn't anything special. To his credit he's a smart player who sees the ice well and is a good play maker. His hands are decent and he thinks the game well. That said he's much smaller than his brother and his skating is poor.


I was just as impressed with Shattuck's other 2008 eligibles such as Brock Montpetit, David Carle, and Jordan Murray.

In fact the best prospect on the team this year was a 2009 eligible, Stepan Novotny.

If Toews handles himself well in the USHL this season and works on his skating, then his stock will go up. But he's not top 10 material.

I don't think he's top 10- just outside that- but he impressed me during the CWGs. His speed isn't elite, not yet, but from what I've seen, his sense of timing is such that it gives him an edge over opposing defensemen. He's also got an extra gear when in close.

Tons of heart with him, and I think he may be a better leader than his brother if that's possible. Definitely a winner.

 

[X-SHARKIE]

I don't think he's top 10- just outside that- but he impressed me during the CWGs. His speed isn't elite, not yet, but from what I've seen, his sense of timing is such that it gives him an edge over opposing defensemen. He's also got an extra gear when in close.

Tons of heart with him, and I think he may be a better leader than his brother if that's possible. Definitely a winner.

Hmm.. To be honest I didn't get to see him at that event.

He reminds me of a smaller, poor mans version of his brother. But I love his hockey sense, anticipation, vision, and hand skill. We'll see, I'm anxious to see how he handles the pace of the play in the USHL or WHL.

 

[duckfanatic]

I think because of his brother is the reason he is rated so high.

 

[whockeynut]

My List

1. Steven Stamkos
2. Drew Doughty
3. Kyle Beach
4. Alex Pieterangelo
5. Zach Boychuk
6. Colton Teuburt
7. Kirill Petrov
8. Michael Del Zotto
9. Jamie Arniel
10. Kelsey Tessier
11. A.J. Jenks
12. Colin Wilson
13. Patrice Cormier
14. Jimmy Hayes
15. Cody Hodgson
16. Mikeal Bødker
17. Yann Sauve
18. Mitch Wahl
19. Zach Bogosian
20. Chris Doyle
21. Johan Motin
22. Phil McRae
23. Vyacheslav Voynov
24. Nikita Filatov
25. Anton Gustafsson
26. Jordan Eberle
27. Luke Schenn
28. David Toews
29. Thomas McCullum
30. Tyler Cuma

 

[orangeandblack]

The Shattuck to North Dakota path didn't hurt Jonathan's ranking very much. Or Zach Parise's. Or Drew Stafford's. He'll do just fine without the CHL.

i agree that he is overrated at this point. if his last name was taves not toews he would have alot less talk surrounding him.

yea, but they had all played a year of ncaa hockey during their draft year. david toews will be drafted before he gets to college. this wont hurt his developemnt, but going to the dub would likely help his draft stock.

i dont think d toews can play in the ushl because hes considered an import, and hockey canada regulates whether its players can play juniors in the usa. thats why i asked if he was headed to bchl like former shattuck canadian player pat rogan.

 

[pouskin74*]

1. Steven Stamkos
2. Drew Doughty
3. Kyle Beach
4. Alex Pieterangelo
5. Zach Boychuk
6. Colton Teuburt
7. Kirill Petrov
8. Michael Del Zotto
9. Jamie Arniel
10. Kelsey Tessier
11. A.J. Jenks
12. Colin Wilson
13. Patrice Cormier
14. Jimmy Hayes
15. Cody Hodgson
16. Mikeal Bødker
17. Yann Sauve
18. Mitch Wahl
19. Zach Bogosian
20. Chris Doyle
21. Johan Motin
22. Phil McRae
23. Vyacheslav Voynov
24. Nikita Filatov
25. Anton Gustafsson
26. Jordan Eberle
27. Luke Schenn
28. David Toews
29. Thomas McCullum
30. Tyler Cuma

nikita filatov is the nr 1 . why he is on 24 place in your list!???is it funfest or something?

 

[Garl]

nikita filatov is the nr 1 . why he is on 24 place in your list!???is it funfest or something?

Well your list would be REALLY funny I think.

 

[Believe in Blue]

Me and some buddies decided to look at 2008 elgibles on videos from some website. heres our list

1. Patrice Cormier.
2. Yann Sauve.
3. Zach Boychuk
4. Colton Teuburt.
5. Steven Stamkos.
6. David Toews.
7. Tomi Karhunen.
8. Phil McRae.
9. Vladimir Roth.
10. Chris Doyle.
11. Mitch Wahl.
12. Colin Wilson.
13. Drew Doughty.
14. Kyle Beach.
15. Cody Hodgson.
16. Alex Pieterangelo.
17. Michael Del Zotto.
18. Joakim Mattson.
19. Luke Adam.
20. Jordan Eberle.
21. Andre Pettersson.
22. Jamie Arniel.
23. Nathan Moon.
24. Jimmy Hayes.
25. Kevin Poulin.
26. Mattias Tedenby
27. Johan Motin.
28. Jan Kana.
29. Jordan Southorn
30. Luke Schenn

Comments, disagreeants, and also please add some more players to this list.

Thanks.

Stamkos should be 3rd or 2nd if not first, Phil Mcrae shouldent even be on that list.
Drew Doughty should be way near the top same with David Toews.
Since I live in Sarnia I go and watch the sting games all the time and yea Stamkos is a great player. But alot of his goals came on the powerplay or were rebound goals. And Stammer has got to learn to keep his head up

 

[DanStewart]

I also live in Sarnia and have seen Stamkos play frequently, he skates well and creates his own plays. Drives hard to the net and carries defenders along the way. His shot is already better than most NHL'ers and he has good vision. Plus, he plays like Eric Staal does now and he's only going to get better during his draft year. Stamkos isn't in a class with Crosby, Ovechkin or Tavares but he does have 50 goal-100 point potential in the NHL one day.

He has No.1 written all over him. The only other prospect who can give him a run...right now...for that position is Drew Doughty.

Cup

 

[cdnhky1]

Newer list

1. Steven Stamkos. Sarnia, OHL
2. Drew Doughty. Guelph, OHL
3. Zach Boychuk. Lethbridge, WHL
4. Patrice Cormier. Rimouski, WHL
5. Colton Teuburt. Regina, WHL
6. Chris Doyle. PEI, QMJHL
7. Alex Pieterangelo. Niagara, OHL
8. Michael Del Zotto. Oshawa, OHL
9. Kirill Petrov. Ak Bars Kazan, Russia
10. Nikita Filatov. CSKA Moscow, Russia
11. Jamie Arniel. Guelph, OHL
12. Colin Wilson. US NDTP, US
13. Mikeal Bødker. Kitchenr, OHL
14. Kyle Beach. Everett, WHL
15. Jimmy Hayes. Not sure
16. Zach Bogosian. Peterborough, OHL
17. Kelsey Tessier. Quebec, QMJHL
18. Yann Sauve. Saint John, QMJHL
19. David Toews. Shattuck, US HS
20. Luke Schenn. Kelowna, WHL
21. Vladimir Roth. London, OHL
22. Cody Hodgson. Brampton, OHL
23. Vyacheslav Voynov. Traktor Chelyabinsk, Russia
24. Alexandre Neron. Rimouski, QMJHL
25. Johan Motin. Färjestads BK, Sweden
26. Jordan Eberle. Regina, WHL
27. Phil McRae. London, OHL
28. Mitch Wahl. Spokane, WHL
29. Anton Gustafsson. Frolunda, Sweden
30. Kevin Poulin. Victoriaville, QMJHL
31. Tomi Karhunen. Jokipojat, Finland
32. Joakim Mattson. Not Sure
33. Brendan Arniel. Not Sure
34. Marc Barbeiro. Not Sure
35. Nathan Moon. Kingston, OHL
36. Jan Kana. PEI, QMJHL
37. Phillipe Cornet. Rimouski, QMJHL
38. Mikhail Stefanovich. Quebec, QMJHL
39. Richard Manley. Not sure
40. Robert Mayer. Saint John, QMJHL
41. Philip Larsen.
42. Mattias Tedenby.
43. A.J. Jenks.
44. Thomas McCullum.
45. Tyler Cuma.
46. James Wright.
47. Daniel Despotovic.
48. Andre Pettersson.
49. Harri Saterri.
50. Geordie Wudrick.
51. Dale Hunt.
52. Lance Bouma.
53. Keven Lessard.
54. Luke Adam.
55. Tyler Myers.
56. Vinny Saporani.
57. Evan Mosher.
58. Teighan Zahn.
59. David Hoda.
60. Mike Cichy.

Help me out with teams

You keep coming up with new lists even though none of these guys have played a game since your original list. What accounts for your change in opinion?

 

[PuckheadMcGillycuddy]

Newer list

1. Steven Stamkos. Sarnia, OHL
2. Drew Doughty. Guelph, OHL
3. Zach Boychuk. Lethbridge, WHL
4. Patrice Cormier. Rimouski, WHL
5. Colton Teuburt. Regina, WHL
6. Chris Doyle. PEI, QMJHL
7. Alex Pieterangelo. Niagara, OHL
8. Michael Del Zotto. Oshawa, OHL
9. Kirill Petrov. Ak Bars Kazan, Russia
10. Nikita Filatov. CSKA Moscow, Russia
11. Jamie Arniel. Guelph, OHL
12. Colin Wilson. US NDTP, US
13. Mikeal Bødker. Kitchenr, OHL
14. Kyle Beach. Everett, WHL
15. Jimmy Hayes. U.S. NTDP
16. Zach Bogosian. Peterborough, OHL
17. Kelsey Tessier. Quebec, QMJHL
18. Yann Sauve. Saint John, QMJHL
19. David Toews. Shattuck, US HS
20. Luke Schenn. Kelowna, WHL
21. Vladimir Roth. London, OHL
22. Cody Hodgson. Brampton, OHL
23. Vyacheslav Voynov. Traktor Chelyabinsk, Russia
24. Alexandre Neron. Rimouski, QMJHL
25. Johan Motin. Färjestads BK, Sweden
26. Jordan Eberle. Regina, WHL
27. Phil McRae. London, OHL
28. Mitch Wahl. Spokane, WHL
29. Anton Gustafsson. Frolunda, Sweden
30. Kevin Poulin. Victoriaville, QMJHL
31. Tomi Karhunen. Jokipojat, Finland
32. Joakim Mattson. Not Sure
33. Brendan Arniel. Not Sure
34. Marc Barbeiro. Moncton Wildcats (QMJHL)
35. Nathan Moon. Kingston, OHL
36. Jan Kana. PEI, QMJHL
37. Phillipe Cornet. Rimouski, QMJHL
38. Mikhail Stefanovich. Quebec, QMJHL
39. Richard Manley. U.S. NTDP
40. Robert Mayer. Saint John, QMJHL
41. Philip Larsen. Frolunda (Sweden)
42. Mattias Tedenby. HV 71 (Sweden)
43. A.J. Jenks. Plymouth Whalers (OHL)
44. Thomas McCullum. Guelph Storm (OHL)
45. Tyler Cuma. Ottawa 67's (OHL)
46. James Wright. Vancouver Giants (WHL)
47. Daniel Despotovic.
48. Andre Pettersson. HV 71 (Sweden)
49. Harri Saterri. Tampere (Finland)
50. Geordie Wudrick. Swift Current Broncos (WHL)
51. Dale Hunt. Prince George Cougars (WHL)
52. Lance Bouma. Vancouver Giants (WHL)
53. Keven Lessard.
54. Luke Adam. St. John's Fog Devils (QMJHL)
55. Tyler Myers. Kelowna Rockets (WHL)
56. Vinny Saporani. U.S. NTDP
57. Evan Mosher. PEI Rocket (QMJHL)
58. Teighan Zahn. Saskatoon Blades (WHL)
59. David Hoda.
60. Mike Cichy. U.S. NTDP

Help me out with teams

 

[PuckheadMcGillycuddy]

You keep coming up with new lists even though none of these guys have played a game since your original list. What accounts for your change in opinion?

Well, his first list was a debacle, so there needed to be a great deal of movement. While this is marginally better than his first effort, it's still pretty whack.

 

[PuckheadMcGillycuddy]

Since I criticized his effort, I'll submit my own.

1. Steven Stamkos, C, Sarnia Sting (OHL)
2. Drew Doughty, D, Guelph Storm (OHL)
3. Nikita Filatov, LW, CSKA Moscow (Russia)
4. Alex Pietrangelo, D, Niagra IceDogs (OHL)
5. Kyle Beach, C/RW, Everett Silvertips (WHL)
6. Michael Del Zotto, D, Oshawa Generals (OHL)
7. Colin Wilson, C, U.S. NTDP
8. Kevin Poulin, G, Victoriaville Tigres (QMJHL)
9. Luke Schenn, D, Kelowna Rockets (WHL)
10. Jimmy Hayes, LW, U.S. NTDP
11. Colten Teubert, D, Regina Pats (WHL)
12. Zach Boychuk, C, Lethbridge Hurricanes (WHL)
13. Cody Hodgson, C, Brampton Battalion (OHL)
14. Mattias Tedenby, LW, HV 71 (Sweden)
15. Yann Sauve, D, Saint John Sea Dogs (QMJHL)
16. Harri Sateri, G, Tampere (Finland)
17. Kirill Petrov, LW/RW, Ak Bars-2 Kazan (Russia)
18. Vyacheslav Voinov, D, Traktor Chelyabinsk (Russia)
19. Patrice Cormier, C/LW, Rimouski Oceanic (QMJHL)
20. Kelsey Tessier, C, Quebec Remparts (QMJHL)
21. A.J. Jenks, C/LW, Plymouth Whalers (OHL)
22. Jaroslav Janus, G, Slovan Bratislava (Slovakia)
23. Jamie Arniel, C, Guelph Storm (OHL)
24. Mitch Wahl, C, Spokane Chiefs (WHL)
25. Johan Motin, D, Farjestads (Sweden)
26. James Wright, C, Vancouver Giants (WHL)
27. Tyler Ennis, C, Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)
28. Thomas McCollum, G, Guelph Storm (OHL)
29. David Toews, C/LW, Shattuck St. Mary's
30. Braden Holtby, G, Saskatoon Blades (WHL)

 

[wingmanpei]

Newer list

1. Steven Stamkos. Sarnia, OHL
2. Drew Doughty. Guelph, OHL
3. Zach Boychuk. Lethbridge, WHL
4. Patrice Cormier. Rimouski, WHL
5. Colton Teuburt. Regina, WHL
6. Chris Doyle. PEI, QMJHL
7. Alex Pieterangelo. Niagara, OHL
8. Michael Del Zotto. Oshawa, OHL
9. Kirill Petrov. Ak Bars Kazan, Russia
10. Nikita Filatov. CSKA Moscow, Russia
11. Jamie Arniel. Guelph, OHL
12. Colin Wilson. US NDTP, US
13. Mikeal Bødker. Kitchenr, OHL
14. Kyle Beach. Everett, WHL
15. Jimmy Hayes. Not sure
16. Zach Bogosian. Peterborough, OHL
17. Kelsey Tessier. Quebec, QMJHL
18. Yann Sauve. Saint John, QMJHL
19. David Toews. Shattuck, US HS
20. Luke Schenn. Kelowna, WHL
21. Vladimir Roth. London, OHL
22. Cody Hodgson. Brampton, OHL
23. Vyacheslav Voynov. Traktor Chelyabinsk, Russia
24. Alexandre Neron. Rimouski, QMJHL
25. Johan Motin. Färjestads BK, Sweden
26. Jordan Eberle. Regina, WHL
27. Phil McRae. London, OHL
28. Mitch Wahl. Spokane, WHL
29. Anton Gustafsson. Frolunda, Sweden
30. Kevin Poulin. Victoriaville, QMJHL
31. Tomi Karhunen. Jokipojat, Finland
32. Joakim Mattson. Not Sure
33. Brendan Arniel. Not Sure
34. Marc Barbeiro. Not Sure
35. Nathan Moon. Kingston, OHL
36. Jan Kana. PEI, QMJHL
37. Phillipe Cornet. Rimouski, QMJHL
38. Mikhail Stefanovich. Quebec, QMJHL
39. Richard Manley. Not sure
40. Robert Mayer. Saint John, QMJHL
41. Philip Larsen.
42. Mattias Tedenby.
43. A.J. Jenks.
44. Thomas McCullum.
45. Tyler Cuma.
46. James Wright.
47. Daniel Despotovic.
48. Andre Pettersson.
49. Harri Saterri.
50. Geordie Wudrick.
51. Dale Hunt.
52. Lance Bouma.
53. Keven Lessard.
54. Luke Adam.
55. Tyler Myers.
56. Vinny Saporani.
57. Evan Mosher.
58. Teighan Zahn.
59. David Hoda.
60. Mike Cichy.

Help me out with teams

Just my opinion, but a second round rating might be a bit high for Mosher. He has only played 150 mins in the QMJHL and the highest level that he did well at was midget.