Top 25 Goalie Prospects

[Habs4ever]

Yan Danis not getting mentioned is crap!!

Yan Danis is better potential wise then many of the prospect listed on that top 25 list, but then again its good because I like under dogs lot more then long hyped busts. Montreal has consistently developed great NHL goaltenders, and danis is just yet one more of those.

Fans can argue as much as they can, but if Danis continues what he started last year he will be playing and dominating NHL in no time.

 

[Habs4ever]

Question I have for you guys is how many times have!!

long hyped goaltender prospects have lived upto expectation, while You get likes of goaltender picked after first round who become franchise goaltenders. Goaltenders take time developing, and it could be the case that goalie not in the fans rader today might become franchise goaltender in few years.

 

[DownFromNJ]

When talking about Ahonen, you have to consider that he has never played behind anything resembling a good defense. He also hasn't had much of a chance to move up to the NHL, with some guy named Brodeur and all.

 

[degroat*]

I find it weird that so many posters have Schwarz rated so highly when clearly the guys who get paid millions (NHL GMs) apparently didn't think much of him a few months ago.

One player being picked over another only means that ONE general manager liked that player over the other. Nothing more.

 

[dawgbone]

One player being picked over another only means that ONE general manager liked that player over the other. Nothing more.

Yeah, and one goalie being rated over another in ISS or McKeen's means one writer liked that player over another... there is all this stock put into what writers think, and it's this huge upset when one team picks one player rated lower on someone's draft list over someone rated higher (I'm looking at you Maguire).

And it isn't just GM's... most teams have several scouts who will see guys multiple times, so saying a GM likes one guy more than the other isn't anything close to reality.

 

[MS]

My take:

1. Lehtonen
2. Toivanen
3. Ouellet
4. Emery
5. Fleury
6. Bryzgalov
7. Niitymaki
8. Lundqvist
9. Ahonen
10. Leclaire
11. Montoya
12. Auld
13. Leneveu
14. Ward
15. Miller
16. Deslauriers
17. Schwarz
18. Danis
19. Liv
20. Harding
21. Howard
22. Schneider
23. Dubielewicz
24. Dubnyk
25. Patzold

 

[Newfie Bruin]

1 KariLehtonen
2 MA Fleury
3 Hannu Toivonen
4 Maxime Ouellet
5 Ryan Miller
6 Marek Shcwarz
7 Ilya Bryzgalov
8 Pascal Leclaire
9 Ray Emery
10 Alvaro Montoya
11 Jeff Deslauriers
12 Alex Auld
13 Daniel LeNevue
14 Cam Ward
15 Antero Niittymaki
16 Henrik Lundquivst
17 Mikael Tellqvist
18 Phillipe Sauve
19 Ari Ahonen
20 Josh Harding
21 Devan Dubnyk
22 Andy Chiodo
23 Jordan Sigalet
24 Stefan Liv
25 Leighton/Anderson
HM: Howard, Schiender, Danis, Bacashiua

 

[Reign Nateo]

Homer alert!

I think Corey Schnieder will make some noise before all is said and done this season. HE defensive player of the week...

 

[Clutch Mediocrity]

My take:

1. Lehtonen
2. Toivanen
3. Ouellet
4. Emery
5. Fleury
6. Bryzgalov
7. Niitymaki
8. Lundqvist
9. Ahonen
10. Leclaire
11. Montoya
12. Auld
13. Leneveu
14. Ward
15. Miller
16. Deslauriers
17. Schwarz
18. Danis
19. Liv
20. Harding
21. Howard
22. Schneider
23. Dubielewicz
24. Dubnyk
25. Patzold

Wow. I'm very high on Emery but he shouldn't be ranked above Fluery.

 

[CaptainBure]

I think people here need to stop blowing emery,hes done nothing to prove hell be anything special,look at his wonderful start this season. Hell be good,but not top 5,not top 10...

 

[Clutch Mediocrity]

I think people here need to stop blowing emery,hes done nothing to prove hell be anything special,look at his wonderful start this season. Hell be good,but not top 5,not top 10...

I agree he's not a top 5 goalie prospect. He makes the top 10 easily though IMO. Nothing to prove he's anything special? Just a quick summary, although you can't go by this like gospel:

2002-03 AHL - All-Rookie Team
2001-02 CHL - Goaltender of the Year (Canadian Major Junior)
2001-02 CHL - First All-Star Team (Canadian Major Junior)
2001-02 OHL - Goaltender of the Year
2001-02 OHL - First All-Star Team

Not jaw dropping credentials but they do set him apart from quite a few others. His start this season has been hot/cold. Plays bad one night and then is 1st star. I wouldn't judge just yet. If we do that, Lethonen, Fleury, and Auld all suck due to their poor starts.

 

[Diaboli]

Guys, really. It's Lehtonen, not Lethonen.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Wow! What's up with underrating Minnesota's prospects lately?

 

[fedorov_jr]

Wow! What's up with underrating Minnesota's prospects lately?

who should we be talking about? josh harding? has he really proven more than most of the guys being mentioned in the top 15?

there are so many guys who could fit into the category of top 25 its stupid.... just depends who you ask

 

[El Wama]

1 KariLehtonen
2 MA Fleury
3 Hannu Toivonen
4 Maxime Ouellet
5 Ryan Miller
6 Marek Shcwarz
7 Ilya Bryzgalov
8 Pascal Leclaire
9 Ray Emery
10 Alvaro Montoya
11 Jeff Deslauriers
12 Alex Auld
13 Daniel LeNevue
14 Cam Ward
15 Antero Niittymaki
16 Henrik Lundquivst
17 Mikael Tellqvist
18 Phillipe Sauve
19 Ari Ahonen
20 Josh Harding
21 Devan Dubnyk
22 Andy Chiodo
23 Jordan Sigalet
24 Stefan Liv
25 Leighton/Anderson
HM: Howard, Schiender, Danis, Bacashiua

That's a pretty good list.. But like everyone else in the world of hockey, you forgot the name of Julien Ellis-Plante.. In his fisrt year, he put Shawinigan in his back.. He had a poor team in front of him defensivly.. And he was drafted too low.. Maybe he's not in the top 25 right now, but he will be a #1 goaltender someday in the big leagues, Garantee

 

[thestonedkoala]

who should we be talking about? josh harding? has he really proven more than most of the guys being mentioned in the top 15?

there are so many guys who could fit into the category of top 25 its stupid.... just depends who you ask

Well he was on a weak Pats team, saw a hellovalot of shots in 2002...his 2003 year was rocky because of his trade...but he did okay...

He was a backup on the Canadian Junior Team...

No top 10 but to me close to the top 15...better than JDD and close to Ward...

And yes I'm going to get slammed for this but:

1/ Kari Lehtonen
2/ Marc-André Fleury
3/ Maxime Oulette
4/ Hannu Toivonen
5/ Ilya Bryzgalov
6/ Marek Schwarz
7/ Antero Niittymaki
8/ Henrik Lundqvist
9/ Ray Emery
10/ Ryan Miller
11/ Ari Ahonen
12/ Jimmy Howard
13/ Cam Ward
14/ Josh Harding
15/ Mikael Tellqvist
16/ David LeNeveau
17/ Alexander Auld
18/ Pascal LeClaire
19/ Andy Choido
20/ Jeff Deslauriers
21/ Alvaro Montoya
22/ Yann Danis
23/ Michael Leighton/Craig Anderson
24/ Stefan Liv
25/ Devan Dubnyk

 

[goalienut]

OK so based on your suggestions here are the updated top 25
These are still wide open to debate

1 Lehtonen
2 Fleury
3 Toivonen
4 Lundqvist
5 Ouellet
6 Emery
7 Bryzgalov
8 Miller
9 Leclaire
10 Auld
11 Montoya
12 Schwarz
13 Ward
14 LeNevue
15 Deslauriers
16 Niittymaki
17 Ahonen
18 Sauve
19 Harding
20 Dannis
21 Howard
22 Ellis
23 Dubnyk
24 Leighton/Anderson
25 Tellqvist

HM- Schnieder, Liv, Sanford, Bacashiua, Chiodo, Ellis-Plante, Sigalet

A little Better?

 

[NYRangers]

OK so based on your suggestions here are the updated top 25
These are still wide open to debate

1 Lehtonen
2 Fleury
3 Toivonen
4 Lundqvist
5 Ouellet
6 Emery
7 Bryzgalov
8 Miller
9 Leclaire
10 Auld
11 Montoya
12 Schwarz
13 Ward
14 LeNevue
15 Deslauriers
16 Niittymaki
17 Ahonen
18 Sauve
19 Harding
20 Dannis
21 Ellis
22 Dubnyk
23 Leighton/Anderson
24 Tellqvist
25 Howard
HM- Schnieder, Liv, Sanford, Bacashiua, Chiodo, Ellis-Plante, Sigalet

A little Better?

I;d bump Howard to 21 and slide everyone down 1, then I'd approve.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Lets see Fleury or Lehtonen plays behind Albany's defense the last two years. When you look at Ahonen's stats also look at Clemmensen who in 4 NHL games last year had 2 SO, crazy GAA/SV%. Ahonen has had better stats then Clemmensen all three years in the AHL. Albany's defense the last two years have been sick, sick just isn't quite the word that describes it.

 

[MS]

OK so based on your suggestions here are the updated top 25
These are still wide open to debate

1 Lehtonen
2 Fleury
3 Toivonen
4 Lundqvist
5 Ouellet
6 Emery
7 Bryzgalov
8 Miller
9 Leclaire
10 Auld
11 Montoya
12 Schwarz
13 Ward
14 LeNevue
15 Deslauriers
16 Niittymaki
17 Ahonen
18 Sauve
19 Harding
20 Dannis
21 Howard
22 Ellis
23 Dubnyk
24 Leighton/Anderson
25 Tellqvist

HM- Schnieder, Liv, Sanford, Bacashiua, Chiodo, Ellis-Plante, Sigalet

A little Better?

Tellqvist, Leighton, and Sauve are all graduated by HF standards. Leighton has played more NHL games than guys like Garon, Conklin, and Toskala. Sauve was in the NHL for almost all of last year. These guys don't really belong on a prospects list.

Dan Ellis does not belong anywhere near this list. He's a marginal prospect who was torched in the AHL last year and is currently the backup to Yann Danis in Hamilton.

 

[goalienut]

Tellqvist, Leighton, and Sauve are all graduated by HF standards. Leighton has played more NHL games than guys like Garon, Conklin, and Toskala. Sauve was in the NHL for almost all of last year. These guys don't really belong on a prospects list.

Dan Ellis does not belong anywhere near this list. He's a marginal prospect who was torched in the AHL last year and is currently the backup to Yann Danis in Hamilton.

I still consider them prospects because they haven't played in anything more than a 3rd goalie role yet. Leighton is an exception but I consider last year as an emergancy call-up rather than a real role.

 

[rnyquist]

I still consider them prospects because they haven't played in anything more than a 3rd goalie role yet. Leighton is an exception but I consider last year as an emergancy call-up rather than a real role.

But Sauve was the back up for well over half the season. Tellqvist is hardly a prospect, if he's a prospect then so is Dan Blackburn

 

[goalienut]

But Sauve was the back up for well over half the season. Tellqvist is hardly a prospect, if he's a prospect then so is Dan Blackburn

Good Point but I still consider them prospects.
I still do consider Dan Blackburn a prospect but I didn't think he would be on the list because his injury has hurt his stock so much.

 

[MS]

Wow. I'm very high on Emery but he shouldn't be ranked above Fluery.

I know almost everyone will disagree. I just don't think Fleury is nearly as good as most people do.

 

[Unknownbutfamous]

I know almost everyone will disagree. I just don't think Fleury is nearly as good as most people do.

Agreed