Top 20 fighters of all time

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  1. johnnyutah

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    Heres my top 20 mma fighters of all time. I considered female fighters As well. I did not take their behaviour outside of the ring/octagon or steroid use into account. What do you think of my list? Who do I have too high/too low?

    1. Anderson Silva
    2. Fedor Emelianenko
    3. George St. Pierre
    4. Jon Jones
    5. Dan Henderson
    6. Antonio Noguiera
    7. Wanderlei Silva
    8. Demetrius Johnson
    9. Jose Aldo
    10. Chuck Liddell
    11. Mirko Cro Cop
    12. Victor Belfort
    13. Kazushi Sakuraba
    14. Igor Vovchanchyn
    15. Randy Couture
    16. Shogun Rua
    17. Conor McGregor
    18. B.J Penn
    19.Cain Velasques
    20. Daniel Cormier
    HM: Rich Franklin, Matt Hughes, Nick Diaz, Takanori Gomi
     
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  2. timbermen

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    Well thought out list,hard to argue with
    more HM's:Rampage Jackson,Royce Gracie,Roy Nelson,Frank Shamrock,Rickson Gracie,Mark Hunt
     
  3. Neutrinos

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    Since you're not taking steroids into account, Jon Jones has to be #1

    He beat #5, #12, #16 and #20 on your list in convincing fashion
     
  4. kurt

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    Great list.

    A couple guys could definitely get flipped up or down 2-3 spots but it's splitting hairs and totally subjective - impossible to determine who's really correct.

    A couple more HMs - Big Nog, Overeem, Cyborg, Werdum, Edgar, Rousey, Joanna Champion, Cruz... list goes on and on.
     
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    Just in my opinion:

    Too low (or not on list at all): DJ, Hughes, Werdum, Alvarez
    Too High: Couture, Liddell, Cain

    But a really solid list overall.
     
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    I also think Cormier should be higher
     
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    Anderson Silva us not the greatest fighter of all time

    yes he dominated his division, but the middle weight division(at the time) was as weak or weaker than the heavyweight division in terms of competition and top competition

    you're buying those sheep tickets from the UFC putting him on the top

    emelianenko's prime> Silva's

    Randy couture should be ranked higher than wanderlei. wanderlei was a beast on the juice, but his career of being a dominant fighter ended pretty quick after he went to the UFC
    couture was the heavy weight champion at the time

    agreed

    Jon Jones
    gsp
    emelianenko

    Silva can be your number 5

    you can switch fedor and gsp, but gsp returning and winning the belt at middle weight solidified himself a GOAT
     
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    my top 5 probably would be

    1. GSP
    2. Aldo
    3. Jones
    4. Fedor
    5. Silva

    2-5 could be pretty interchangeable honestly. Jones and Fedor being lower than Aldo for me because i do have a bias against heavier weight classes and I value lower class competition to be deeper and tougher.

    Aldo's wins over Edgar (a perennial contender in two divisions and a former champ from a very deep and heavier division) twice, Faber (perennial contender in two divisions and former WEC champ), Mendes (dangerous contender) twice, Mike Brown (the champ before Aldo who beat Faber twice) are career highs to be respected.
     
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    Aldo is top-5
     
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    Jones
    McGregor
    Cyborg
     
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    Mark "the specimen" Kerr was pretty good before having his career derailed.
    Bas "el guapo" Rutten and Big Nog.
     
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    [QUOTE="brachyrynchos, post: 141441233, member: 284639"]Mark "the specimen" Kerr was pretty good before having his career derailed.
    Bas "el guapo" Rutten and Big Nog.[/QUOTE]

    He was a roided up wrestler who beat up a bunch of nobodies

    His biggest career win was against Paul Varelans

    Kerr doesn't belong anywhere near this list. Either does Mark Coleman, for that matter
     
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    [QUOTE="Neutrinos, post: 141446755, member: 276551"QUOTE="brachyrynchos, post: 141441233, member: 284639"]Mark "the specimen" Kerr was pretty good before having his career derailed.
    Bas "el guapo" Rutten and Big Nog.[/QUOTE]

    He was a roided up wrestler who beat up a bunch of nobodies

    His biggest career win was against Paul Varelans

    Kerr doesn't belong anywhere near this list. Either does Mark Coleman, for that matter[/QUOTE]
    He beat 8× bjj champ Fabio Gurgel, Barreto, Ricco, and Barnett in ADCC, he fought good competition. I agree re: Coleman. In terms of the juicing, I guess it's a different debate, I mean, without testing, one could argue that no rules were broken, kind of like the MLB homerun derby years ago with Mcguire and Sosa, Androstene wasn't illegal, they took plenty. In terms of the OPs list, at least 7 have been linked to banned substances, how much it determined their success...I don't know.
     
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    I usually don't like these lists, but I'm bored today:

    TIER 1:
    1. Jon Jones

    TIER 2:
    2. GSP
    3. Anderson Silva
    4. Fedor

    TIER 3:
    5. Daniel Cormier
    6. Fabricio Werdum
    7. Jose Aldo
    8. Demitrious Johnson

    TIER 4:
    9. Dan Henderson
    10. Chuck Liddell
    11. Matt Hughes
    12. Big Nog

    Those are my top 12 with inside the tiers being fairly interchangeable.
     
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    Would DC over Stipe move him up a tier for you?
     
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    I was thinking about that earlier - I'm not sure. I think so.

    If DC beat Miocic and then Werdum I think he would move up to at least #4 and maybe higher.
     
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    dc is better than Anderson Silva

    dc beat the guy...
    Anderson Silva fought low tier fighters most of his career
     
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    This is the single most impressive move I've ever seen in the UFC:


    I think it's fair to say he's a notch or two above Tier 3
     
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    I didn't know that these were the "coolest finish" rankings, my bad.
     
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    I think I have DC higher than most would.

    Comparing Silva to DC is fine, but let's not pretend a decision win over a near-retired Silva on 3 days notice means much.
     
  21. Peggy

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    then let's not pretend Anderson Silva was fighting top competition lol

    ppl don't rank dc as high because he lost to Jones
    but the guy is doing everything Jones shoudlve been doing. he's beating everyone on the top and now challenging for the heavy weight title

    dc is the greatest light heavy weight fighter of all time not named Jon Jones
     
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    He's a champion with a 13 fight win streak

    It is your "bad" if you think I was basing anything on just one move

    Maybe you haven't heard the news, but many people have Demetrius Johnson as the best pound-4-pound fighter in the UFC
     
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    This isn't the best finish or current p4p list. I have DJ in a tier where I mentioned he is interchangeable between #5 and #8. Where do you rank him?
     
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    Cain, Werdum, Fedor, Mir
    Jones, Cormier, Couture, Liddell
    Anderson, Weidman, Belfort
    GSP, Hughes
    Edgar, Penn, Ben Henderson
    Aldo, McGregor
    Cruz
    DJ
     
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    Stipe?
     
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