Top 15 smartest players in the NHL

[Steamwhistle]

I'm not sure what's worse, this list or the people on here bashing some of the degrees. You must all be geniuses.

 

[Bending and Tending]

I didn't even read it because I hate it when people advertise on here.

 

[blinds]

You have no business giving an opinion on the difficulty of degree programs. Get that ******** out of here. Unless you have multiple degrees in multiple disciplines....then by all means, enlighten us.

There are WAY too many variables between all degrees and their areas of emphases to ever pass judgment in the fashion you are. I HIGHLY doubt you took more than 1-2 general curriculum poli sci, sociology, history, or biology classes based on the way you're speaking about it. I'm glad your singular experience and anecdotal proof mean so much to you, but it's irrelevant and baseless.

Picking on non-stem degrees and singling out fine arts. Whatever program you followed, they did a bang up job instilling critical thought and reasoning ability. Bravo.

Oh please, we're talking about undergraduate degrees here. Of course there's plenty of things you can do to enhance your education like research, internships, competitions, etc etc, but that's why I specifically mentioned I was talking about the baseline for graduating with these degrees. Bachelor's degrees aren't for specialization, they're to give you a broad foundation.

Since you brought it up, I do have multiple bachelor's degrees (2) with a pretty unusual minor. I've switched majors and schools. I'm also in graduate school currently. I had a very close friend studying political science, a roommate studying psychology (minoring in sociology), and my best friend majored in biology before switching majors. I'll grant I don't know anyone very well that went through a history degree. However, I'm very familiar with the topics discussed and it's simply a matter of fact that some areas of study are objectively more complex and harder to grasp.

That's why you have different levels of graduation, drop out rates and switched majors between subjects (here's an example from UCSC showing differing graduation rates). If you're trying to make an argument that a bachelor's degree indicates intelligence, well I'd say that's a poor argument to make no matter what the subject is. But at least it's a little more credible in a major where attaining the degree is difficult, like nuclear engineering vs hotel management.

 

[Atas2000]

Acrobello graduated from Yale with a degree in Political science.

The guy is smart.

Graduating from Yale or whereever else doesn't mean you are smart. Maybe compared to your average professional athlete...

 

[Atas2000]

I'm not sure what's worse, this list or the people on here bashing some of the degrees. You must all be geniuses.

It's just a degree doesn't define a genius.

 

[The Grim Reaper*]

Political Science, Sociology and History are difficult programs to go through. I always found them more of a challenge than biology.

"I took an intro biology course once."

 

[Steamwhistle]

It's just a degree doesn't define a genius.

Never said it did.

 

[Shaman464]

Political Science, Sociology and History are difficult programs to go through. I always found them more of a challenge than biology.

No they aren't. They are bare memorization. Biology, beyond the undergrad gen-ed level is application and innovation, which is much harder.

As for this article, it seems just to be a list of guys who went to ivy league colleges. That doesn't make them the smartest.

 

[who_me?]

John Scott's also got a mechanical engineering degree.

Force equals fist times acceleration.

 

[SteenMachine]

FYI, most ivy league schools require identical intellectual attributes whether playing sports or not. The only thing being an athlete gets you is entrance compared to an equally qualified candidate.

There is a reason why Ivy league schools don't compete as well in many sports; most students can't meet the criteria to attend, regardless of how great they are at sports.

People are aware of how Ivy League institutions work. This article just did as little as humanly possible to prove that it amounted to anything. It also acted like every other school, completed degree, national standardized test score in the world is sub par or irrelevant to a list of players in a league that's dominated by international players.

 

[7even]

A bunch of guys that probably got into those ivy league schools because of hockey rather than their smarts. Really? "satisfactory GPA", degrees in Poli Sci, Sociology, History, and HOTEL MANAGEMENT?!

Horcoff, Volpatti, and Greening are all impressive though

Bogus degree or not, Scrivens is hella smart.

 

[jw2]

List and website suck.

 

[IWD]

...What? That's so off base it's funny. I've taken many poli sci classes and a couple sociology and history ones, and just one biology class and it's not even god damn close. Those are joke majors, you could graduate with a 4.0 while missing half the classes. Sociology are the easiest classes I've ever had. History is rote memorization. Political science you can basically ******** you're way through if you want to. I mean, don't get me wrong, you can get a lot out of these degrees if you choose, but the baseline for graduating with one of them is wayyyyy below any of the hard sciences.

Where did you go to school where sociology is harder than biology? You might as well try and say fine arts is equivalent to mathematics.

A high-end university, actually, and I have a science degree from there as well.

Quite easily, I can say that I always found that the sciences to be a lot easier than the arts. I found all of those subjects to be more difficult than my science classes. I'm not sure where you went to school, but if all you did in those classes was rote memorization, it's no wonder they were easy to pass. Memorization doesn't really equate to deep conceptualization, though.

 

[IdontSpitOnTheIce]

Hey all,

I made a list of the 15 smartest players in the league right now (book smarts, not hockey smarts). There are some well-educated players in the league today!

http://www.thesportster.com/hockey/top-15-smartest-nhl-players/

Do you have a list of all the graduates?

 

[Beville]

I thought this was going to be about hockey iq, oh well

Same, I was ready to make a Mark Stone reference...

 

[Machinehead]

People have no idea what they're talking about, which is typical when people start talking about degrees.

Difficulty depends entirely on the program which varies from school to school, or depending on the major, from state to state. It has nothing to do with the subject matter.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

There's Dr.Randy Gregg

5 Stanley Cups, and still working as a Family Practitioner in Edmonton.


http://www.coppernblue.com/2009/12/2/1182047/edmontons-greatest-hockey-hero-and

 

[BowieSabresFan]

No they aren't. They are bare memorization. Biology, beyond the undergrad gen-ed level is application and innovation, which is much harder.

As for this article, it seems just to be a list of guys who went to ivy league colleges. That doesn't make them the smartest.

If all you think they are is bare memorization, then you missed something somewhere. In fact, you missed a lot of things somewhere.

 

[Semantics]

Difficulty depends entirely on the program which varies from school to school, or depending on the major, from state to state. It has nothing to do with the subject matter.

That couldn't be further from the truth, and shows you have no idea what you're talking about. It *absolutely* has to do with the subject matter. The percentage of the population capable of obtaining a degree in something like theoretical physics is much smaller than the percentage capable of obtaining a degree in history, to pick two examples, and assuming reputable universities.

This has been studied to death already. This is a sample of the average IQ of new PhD students in the various fields based on the GRE:

130.0 Physics
129.0 Mathematics
128.5 Computer Science
125.5 Mechanical engineering
121.5 Biology
119.8 Political science
119.7 History
116.0 Business
115.0 Sociology
112.0 Communication

Of course IQ isn't everything there is to being "smart", as it doesn't really take into account knowledge, but it's a pretty good indicator. And it's definitely a good indication of program difficulty as it correlates strongly with "fraction of the populace capable of this".

 

[Jumptheshark]

I'm not sure what's worse, this list or the people on here bashing some of the degrees. You must all be geniuses.

I am bashing how the list was put together--not those who have a degree

 

[Jester9881]

Educated =/= smart

 

[MNRube]

If this was the list I was expecting/hoping (which guys are smartest hockey players) I think it would make a good thread. Who would be on it?

Crosby
Girioux
Suter
Datysuk
Bergeron/Kopitar/Toews (all Selke guys)
Homer vote for Spurgeon
Getzlaf
Stralman
Hjalmarrsson

Many more I didn't list.

 

[Sprague Cleghorn]

If Recchi was still playing, he'd be number 1 since he's a M.D, specifying in neurology.

On a more serious note, Randy Gregg like the guy above me posted has to be a top-5 book smart NHLer of all-time. Any other players with jobs of similar status to M.Ds? I know of Charles Stewart: a goalie during the late 20s, and a dentist.

 

[Cynick]

Nice to see Scrivens recognized for his advocacy work in mental health. He's done tremendous work – hope he keeps it up!

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

Im not clicking the link but chara better be on it. buddy loves to learn

also Hodgson loves math... like does math for fun in his spare time.

a piece of paper doesnt make you smart necessarily.

also S/O too all European players who had to learn english just to play hockey... our language is hard af.