Flyers' History: Top 10s in Flyers history and other recollections

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Looking at your nickname list, it occurred to me that many of those players kept the room loose. Joe Watson and Dupont in particular. Today, the Flyers seem too serious and need a Hartnell type.
 
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And now, the top 10 nicknames, well at least my 10 favorite, in Flyers history! The majority come from the Bullies era which isn't surprising as the game was just more colorful then.

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Bob "The Count" Dailey
Dailey's nickname in Vancouver was Moose, but as you will see later, there can only be one Moose when it comes to the Flyers. The name came about when Dailey had his sportcoat draped over his shoulder and a teammate thought he looked just like the Count from Sesame Street

Jerome "Moses" Mrazek
Moses wasn't with the Flyers long, but it's still a cool nickname

Barry "Ashcan" Ashbee
Great nickname, great player. Rest in peace, Ashcan.

Eric "Big E" Lindros
Pretty much says it all.

10. Rick "Hawk" Macleish
The name was in reference to Rick's hawklike nose, yeah hockey players are children. He was also known by his teammates as "Cutie"

9. Pelle "Gump" Lindbergh
I believe this name was bestowed on him by Flyers trainer, Sudsy (also a pretty cool nickname) Settlemeyer. Sudsy thought that Lindbergh, with his build and mask, looked just like old time goalie, Gump Worsely.

8. Bill "Arnie" Barber
Barber was a great player, but not the most attractive man. Arnie was short for Arnold the Pig from the old tv show, Green Acres.

7. Don "Big Bird" Saleski
With his huge curly fro, long neck and 6'3 height, teammates felt Saleski was the spitting image of Sesame Streets Big Bird. Did I mention that hockey players are like children?

6. Larry "The Rock" Zeidel
One of the most colorful and hard nosed players from the teams earliest era, "The Rock" was an appropriate name for the hard nosed Zeidel. You owe his family some royalties, Duane Johnson!

5. Ken "The Rat" Linseman
Perhaps the most accurate nickname in Flyers history. The man lived his gimmick as he was a nasty, dirty little bastard on the ice who should thank God every day that Paul Holmgren was his linemate.

4. Bob "Hound Dog" Kelly
Sometimes shortened to just "The Hound", it was a good fit for this ball of energy. On a team full of colorful players, the Hound stood out. No one should ever forget him telling PA governor Milton Schapp to get the **** out of his seat in the locker room following the Flyers 2nd Cup win. Kelly is an all time character in the history of the Flyers.

3. Joe "Thundermouth" Watson
Joe was the loudest player on the Broad Street Bullies. Players used to joke that Joe talked so loud on the ice, that they could hear him in his hometown of Smithers, British Columbia!

2. Dave "The Hammer" Schultz
Another nickname that fit like a glove, Schultz earned his nickname by fighting pretty much everyone he could get his hands on. If Bobby Clarke and Bernie Parent were the heart and soul of the Broad Street Bullies, Schultz was it's spine.

1. Andre "Moose" Dupont
The Moose is number one on my list and he just may be the most colorful player in the history of the franchise which is saying a lot. He also has the best quote in team history per Gene Hart. After a particularly violent win over the Vancouver Canucks, the Moose was asked for his thoughts about the game. He said, 'We score 10 goal, we beat up dere chicken**** forwards, and now da Moose drink beer" It just doesn't get any better than that kids!

And there it is, my 10 fave nicknames in Flyers history. Please feel free to comment and/or list your own.

Once again, very well done. I'd like to add:

Larry "Izzy" Goodenough
"Cowboy" Bill Flett
Simon "Breakaway" Nolet
"The Chief" Bobby Taylor
"Black" Jack McIlhargy
Dave "Hondo" Hoyda
 
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Your next mission...

Top Game 7 Wins (though there are only nine).

1974 NYR
1975 NYI
1976 Toro
1987 NYI
1989 Pitts
2003 Toro
2008 Wash
2010 Boston
2011 Buffalo
You got it! I’m going to change it though to best winner take all wins so that I can get it to ten. Games 3 and 5 wins in 3 and 5 game series will be eligible.

Will be posted later today
 

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As promised, here are the top 10 Flyer wins in winner take all playoff games. Note: there are only 11 to choose from, so I'll sneak in an honorable mention so I can touch on them all.
And away we go!

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1979 Game 3, prelim round vs. VAN
After shockingly losing game 1 on home ice, the Flyers bounced back to win the next 2. Sadly, their 7-2 blowout victory in game 3 was the highlight of the playoffs for the orange and black.

10. 2011 game 7 vs Buffalo, EC Quarters 5-2
In what would be their only series win that year, the Flyers get by the Sabres. Braydon Coburn opened the scoring in the first and goals by Briere and JVR in the 2nd pretty much put the game away. The Flyers also got solid goaltending from Brian Boucher.

9. 1981 Game 5, Prelim vs Quebec
The Flyers defeated Quebec 5-2 in game 5 for their only series win in 1981. Rick Macleish opened up the scoring, followed by Al Hill in the 2nd and goals by Ken Linseman, Paul Holmgren and Blake Dunlop in the 3rd.

8. 2003 vs Toronto, game 7, EC QTR
In a nasty hard fought series, the Flyers won the big one, 6-1. 2 of the first 6 games went to double OT that Spring and one made it to triple OT. The Flyers, perhaps sick of playing in OT, took care of business early as 1st period goals by Simon Gagne and Justin Williams put the Leafs on their heels. In the 2nd goals by Primeau and Recchi sandwiched around one by Gary Roberts pretty much put the game away. The Flyers played great defensively holding the Leafs to only 19 shots and goalie Roman Cechmanek stopped all but one.

7. 1976 vs Toronto, game 7, Quarterfinals
In a series that was closer than it should have been, the Flyers took care of business winning game 7 by a score of 7-3. The Leafs were up 2-1 after the first, but the Flyers came out playing like their lives depended on winning in the 2nd as they scored 5 consecutive goals, 2 by Mel Bridgman. With a 6-2 lead heading into the 3rd, it was already over.

6. 1989 vs Pittsburgh, game 7, Patrick Div. finals
Stick your windmills up your ass Robbie Brown! In a crazy series, in which Mario Lemieux was a force, the Flyers took care of business with a surprisingly tight checking 4-1 victory. The Flyers had lost game 5 by the ridiculous score of 10-7 which I believe is the most total goals ever scored in a Flyers playoff game. With Ron Hextall injured, back up Ken Wrrgget stepped in and played the game of his life. Brian Propp opened the scoring in the first and Dave Poulin quickly answered a Lemieux goal to give the Flyers a 2-1 lead heading into the 3rd. In the final stanza, goals by Mike Bullard and Scott Mellanby put the game away.

5. 2008 vs Washington game 7, EC Quarterfinals
One year after having the worst record in the NHL, the Flyers defeat the heavily favored Caps in game 7, 3-2 in OT to move on to the next round. Martin Biron was a brick wall in goal stopping 39 of 41 shots and when the Flyers got a rare pp opportunity in OT, Briere and Timonen set up Joffrey Lupul for the game winner and silenced the stunned Washington crowd. Younger fans might remember RJ Umberger as a broken down player at the end of his career, but in this series, he was flat out dominant and played the best hockey of his life. That game 7 win, IMO, was the highlight of one the great comeback seasons in Flyers history.

4. 1987 vs NYI, game 7, Patrick Div finals
The Flyers were up 3-1 after 4 games, but the veteran Isles had one last gasp left and won back to back games to force a game 7. Flyers captain Dave Poulin had been sidelined earlier in the series with broken ribs, but he lathered up with DMSO and strapped on the flak jacket to ride to the Flyers rescue in game 7. Dave Brown would shockingly score the first goal of the game and after a goal by Brian Propp doubled the Flyers lead in the 2nd, a goal by Brad Marsh finished them off a few minutes later. The final score was 5-1, but Keith Allen told Brad Marsh after the game that once you scored, the Isles knew they were finished!

3. 1975 vs NYI game 7, Semi finals
Coming off their first Cup and a sweep of the Leafs in the 75 quarterfinals, the Flyers raced out to a 3-0 series lead and seemed unbeatable. However the Isles had roared back from a 3-0 deficit vs the Pens in the previous round and there was no quit in this young team. The Isles went on to win the next 3 and force a game 7 at the Spectrum for all the marbles. Flyers fans were still roaring from Kate Smith's rousing rendition of God Bless America when Gary Dornhoefer scored only 19 seconds into the game. Rick Macleish would score 2 more in the first to put the Isles in a 3-0 hole and he would go on to ice the game, finishing his hat trick in the 3rd. There was no doubt after that game that the Flyers had what it took to go on and win their 2nd Cup.

2. 2010 vs Boston, game 7, EC Semifinal
Well, you all know the story. The Flyers lose 2 very close games in Boston and then get beat pretty soundly at home to fall into a 3-0 hole that looked more like a chasm. Even after squeaking out a face saving OT victory in game 4, no one really thought that the Flyers could keep it going. But, as the 1980 US Olympic Hockey proved, miracles do happen! In game 5 in Boston, after stopping 9 0f 9 shots, goalie Brian Boucher has to leave the game due to injury. Michael Leighton would come in cold and stop the next 14 as the Flyers shocked the Bruins with a 2-0 victory. Now, we were starting to believe. In game 6 on home ice, the Flyers worked their tails off and once again got great goaltending by Leighton as they tied the series up with a 2-1 victory. What happened next is hockey history. The Bruins raced out to a 3-0 lead in game 7 and it seemed the Flyers had just run out of gas. But then, coach Peter Laviolette called one of his brilliant timeouts and simply said. "just get one". The man we now call Pigeon took him to heart and JVR got a goal with 2:48 left in the first to put the orange and black on the board. The Flyers came out on fire in the 2nd and goals by Hartnell and Briere had the game deadlocked heading into the 3rd. Both teams came out cautiously in that final stanza, but slowly the Flyers began to pick up the pace. Simon Gagne put in THE GOAL about halfway thru the period and one of the greatest comebacks in sports history was complete. Epic is a word that gets overused these days, but friends, that game and that comeback was truly epic.

1. 1974 vs NYR game 7, Semifinals
There is no bigger deciding game in Flyers history than this contest in April of 1974. Until this game, no original 6 team had EVER lost to an expansion team in a playoff series. The Flyers and Rangers had each won all of their home games going into this final tilt and the series had been marked by some particularly nasty play. Dave "The Hammer" Schultz set the tone early in the first when he beat the living shit out of Ranger Dman, Dale Rolfe. The Flyers on 2 Gary Dornhoeffer goals and a 1 goal/2 assist game from Rick Macleish, held on to win 4-3 and move on to the Cup final. Bernie Parent was flat out amazing in the 3rd stopping all 13 Ranger shots and it seemed like captain Bobby Clarke won every defensive zone faceoff he took. Fred Shero would later say that beating the Rangers in that game 7 gave them the confidence to go on and win the Cup.

And there you have it, as always please share your thoughts and comments.
 

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3. 1975 vs NYI game 7, Semi finals
Coming off their first Cup and a sweep of the Leafs in the 75 quarterfinals, the Flyers raced out to a 3-0 series lead and seemed unbeatable. However the Isles had roared back from a 3-0 deficit vs the Pens in the previous round and there was no quit in this young team. The Isles went on to win the next 3 and force a game 7 at the Spectrum for all the marbles. Flyers fans were still roaring from Kate Smith's rousing rendition of God Bless America when Gary Dornhoefer scored only 19 seconds into the game. Rick Macleish would score 2 more in the first to put the Isles in a 3-0 hole and he would go on to ice the game, finishing his hat trick in the 3rd. There was no doubt after that game that the Flyers had what it took to go on and win their 2nd Cup.

One of the most questioned moments in Flyers' history. Did the Flyers sweep this series? People often talk about how the Islanders took consecutive series to Game 7s after being down 3-0 but the Flyers were within a hair of winning Game 4.

And do you know the linesman who was instrumental in negating the goal? Leon Stickle.

You can see it on this clip (around 1:53:00):

 

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As far as the list, there is no right or wrong being subjective but I would put your #10 ahead of your #9. Also, your #3 would be ahead of your #2 only because it was a Cup-winning year. That is to say if the criteria is importance primarily.

If we are talking excitement, then 2008 Washington, 1987 NYI and 2010 Boston just may be 1-2-3 on my list.

1974 vs. NYR really is a separate category for all!
 
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3. 1975 vs NYI game 7, Semi finals
Coming off their first Cup and a sweep of the Leafs in the 75 quarterfinals, the Flyers raced out to a 3-0 series lead and seemed unbeatable. However the Isles had roared back from a 3-0 deficit vs the Pens in the previous round and there was no quit in this young team. The Isles went on to win the next 3 and force a game 7 at the Spectrum for all the marbles. Flyers fans were still roaring from Kate Smith's rousing rendition of God Bless America when Gary Dornhoefer scored only 19 seconds into the game. Rick Macleish would score 2 more in the first to put the Isles in a 3-0 hole and he would go on to ice the game, finishing his hat trick in the 3rd. There was no doubt after that game that the Flyers had what it took to go on and win their 2nd Cup.

One of the most questioned moments in Flyers' history. Did the Flyers sweep this series? People often talk about how the Islanders took consecutive series to Game 7s after being down 3-0 but the Flyers were within a hair of winning Game 4.

And do you know the linesman who was instrumental in negating the goal? Leon Stickle.

You can see it on this clip (around 1:53:00):


It’s a tough call, but yeah, Stickle of all people. If Bladon doesn’t fan on that shot in the slot of a beautiful feed by Macleish about 45 seconds earlier, it wouldn’t have mattered.

Also, that goal by Macleish to get them within one was a thing of beauty.
 

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Looking at your nickname list, it occurred to me that many of those players kept the room loose. Joe Watson and Dupont in particular. Today, the Flyers seem too serious and need a Hartnell type.

From what I know/have heard Hayes, Raffl and Voracek all do just that... Giroux to an extent as well as Konecny.

Some of them (Raffl+G+TK) might be very serious/professional with media, but in the room are pretty different.
 

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So when it comes to net front presence, there are 5 that truly stand out, so I’ll profile those top 5 in detail in my next post.

Here are the guys who just missed the cut!

Paul Holmgren
Homer had decent hands and many opposing Dmen were too terrified of him to try and move him out

Rick Tocchet
Toc was fearless, loved to go to the net, and knew how to put the puck in when he got there

Eric Lindros
The big guy could do it all offensively including going to the net and making life hell for opposing goalies

Kevin Dineen
Dineen wasn’t the biggest guy but he was solidly built and not afraid to take a beating in front

Scott Hartnell
Hartsy loved to mix it up with opposing D and getting under the skin of goalies too.

The top 5 will be posted soon!
 

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And here they are, the top 5 net front guys in Flyers history!

5. Mike Knuble
Knuble was huge, 230 lbs, and strong as an ox. He also had pretty soft hands and could put the puck in the net. He was the perfect complement to Forsberg and Gagne.

4. Gary Doenhoefer
Dorny was a tall, slender guy who worked his tail off and was absolutely fearless when it came to going to the net. He was known for throwing some well timed elbows to make space for himself yet he still took a beating in front. He also scored some huge playoff goals for the Flyers in the early to mid 70s.

3. Wayne Simmonds
If you only included the pp, Simmer would move up to #2 on this list. Tall and skinny, much like Dornhoefer, Simmonds was deceptively strong and had quick, soft hands. He was also tough as nails and never backed down from anyone.

2. John Leclair
At 6’2, 225 and strong as a black bear, Johnny Vermont made life a living hell for opposing D and goalies in the mid to late 90s. Leclair had great hands and a quick release on his hard and accurate shot. When he and Lindros started cycling down low, they owned the game.

1. Tim Kerr
As per The Highlander, there can be only one and when it comes to Flyers net front guys, well, it’s not even close. Kerr’s strength was legendary during his prime. He stood 6’3 235 and had an unbelievably quick release on his snap shot. In an era where mugging was basically legal, Kerr often scored his goals with both opposing D draped all over him. His four consecutive seasons of 54, 54, 58, 58 goals may never be duplicated by another Flyer and his 4 goal explosion against the Rangers in the 85 playoffs is one of the Flyers all time great single game playoff performances. Had Kerr been healthy for the 87 finals, the Flyers would have likely won their 3rd Cup that spring, he was that good. Tim Kerr is not just the best net front guy in Flyers history, he’s almost certainly one of the top 5 in NHL history.

And there ya have it. As always please feel free to comment and share your own list!
 

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And here they are, the top 5 net front guys in Flyers history!

5. Mike Knuble
Knuble was huge, 230 lbs, and strong as an ox. He also had pretty soft hands and could put the puck in the net. He was the perfect complement to Forsberg and Gagne.

4. Gary Doenhoefer
Dorny was a tall, slender guy who worked his tail off and was absolutely fearless when it came to going to the net. He was known for throwing some well timed elbows to make space for himself yet he still took a beating in front. He also scored some huge playoff goals for the Flyers in the early to mid 70s.

3. Wayne Simmonds
If you only included the pp, Simmer would move up to #2 on this list. Tall and skinny, much like Dornhoefer, Simmonds was deceptively strong and had quick, soft hands. He was also tough as nails and never backed down from anyone.

2. John Leclair
At 6’2, 225 and strong as a black bear, Johnny Vermont made life a living hell for opposing D and goalies in the mid to late 90s. Leclair had great hands and a quick release on his hard and accurate shot. When he and Lindros started cycling down low, they owned the game.

1. Tim Kerr
As per The Highlander, there can be only one and when it comes to Flyers net front guys, well, it’s not even close. Kerr’s strength was legendary during his prime. He stood 6’3 235 and had an unbelievably quick release on his snap shot. In an era where mugging was basically legal, Kerr often scored his goals with both opposing D draped all over him. His four consecutive seasons of 54, 54, 58, 58 goals may never be duplicated by another Flyer and his 4 goal explosion against the Rangers in the 85 playoffs is one of the Flyers all time great single game playoff performances. Had Kerr been healthy for the 87 finals, the Flyers would have likely won their 3rd Cup that spring, he was that good. Tim Kerr is not just the best net front guy in Flyers history, he’s almost certainly one of the top 5 in NHL history.

And there ya have it. As always please feel free to comment and share your own list!

Really appreciate all the effort you put into these, Bigg. It's one thing to be able to list names, quite another to provide accurate detailing of performances of players/teams/games, and still yet another to "show your work" in the accounting of the "Why." The fluidity of the league, from the original Expansion to the pugilistic 70s to the helter skelter offenses of the 80s to mid-90s, to the regrettable stultification of the Trap/Leftwing Lock desert of the latter half of the 1990s - 2000s, etc., takes a nimble mind to untangle and re-braid. This in addition to rule changes, further expansion, trendy go-big or go-speedy philosophies, Cooperalls, Coates-y, flaky Eastern Europe goalies, Dancing Sean, Fox puck-tracking, Gritty, and whatever the hell happened to Fred Shero when he disappeared one night...well, it makes this this first thread I check every time I log on.

Dig your work, broheim.
 

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Really appreciate all the effort you put into these, Bigg. It's one thing to be able to list names, quite another to provide accurate detailing of performances of players/teams/games, and still yet another to "show your work" in the accounting of the "Why." The fluidity of the league, from the original Expansion to the pugilistic 70s to the helter skelter offenses of the 80s to mid-90s, to the regrettable stultification of the Trap/Leftwing Lock desert of the latter half of the 1990s - 2000s, etc., takes a nimble mind to untangle and re-braid. This in addition to rule changes, further expansion, trendy go-big or go-speedy philosophies, Cooperalls, Coates-y, flaky Eastern Europe goalies, Dancing Sean, Fox puck-tracking, Gritty, and whatever the hell happened to Fred Shero when he disappeared one night...well, it makes this this first thread I check every time I log on.

Dig your work, broheim.
Thank you Sir, much obliged!
 

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Can we do a Top Ten Worst Calls Against The Flyers?

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We all know what number 1 is. Leon Stickle is the hint. Was thinking top 10 worst or best trades in honor of today. 1 2 3 and Ouulett for 15 games of Oates was a gem.
Horrid trades in no particular order

McCrimmon for draft picks because Clarke was to stubborn to pay The Beast what he was worth

Zezel for Bullard

Poulin for Linseman YUCK

Sharp for Ellison though mostly in hindsight

Handzus for Calder

A boatload for the rental of Oates

A 2nd round pick for Kubina

JVR for L Schenn
 
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