Top 10 players at each position at the mid-way mark

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    Since we are (roughly) half-way through the season, I thought it would be a good time to see which players are the absolute "cream of the crop" for their positions (centre, wings, defense and goal). NOTE: this is going by their "listed positions" on NHL.com, not necessarily where they play the bulk of their ice-time.

    Centre

    1) McDavid
    2) MacKinnon
    3) Crosby
    4) Matthews
    5) Point
    6) Bergeron
    7) Scheifele
    8) Eichel
    9) Tavares
    10) Barkov

    HM: Draisaitl Monahan, Stamkos, Duchene, Lindholm


    Wing

    1) Kucherov
    2) Rantenen
    3) Gaudreau
    4) Ovechkin
    5) Marner
    6) Pastrnak
    7) P. Kane
    8) Panarin
    9) Wheeler
    10) Landeskog (+HM)

    HM: M. Tkachuck, Huberdeau, Kessel, Stone, Skinner


    Defense


    1) Burns (+1)
    2) Rielly (-1)
    3) Giordano
    4) Hedman
    5) Letang
    6) Chabot
    7) Josi
    8) Byfuglien
    9) Carlson
    10) E. Karlsson

    HM: Yandle, Jones, Barrie, Suter

    NOTE: I will totally admit that defense is the toughest here to order, particularly near the top. I think most people here have pretty similar top-5/top-10 lists but what you particularly value (passing, scoring, own-zone play ability to munch minutes) will shape how we order them.


    Goaltending

    Gibson
    Rinne
    Andersen
    Bishop
    Vasilevskiy
    Lehner
    DeSmith
    Halak
    Rittich
    Fleury

    HM: Hutton, Howard, Greiss, Dubnyk

    NOTE: This is also a tough one to rank since beyond just sv% you also have to look at what team/blue line they are playing behind as well as their volume of work. I tried to avoid just going by "name brand" here. Work-horses get favor from he here.


    Rookies

    1) Petterson
    2) Dahlin
    3) B. Tkachuk
    4) Heiskanen
    5) White


    So what do you guys think? What are your own mid-way of the season top-10 lists? If someone raises a convincing argument, I am totally willing to modify my lists; I admit, I don't regularly watch all 31 teams, so I might have missed something here having just relied on the paper stats for a bunch of these guys. After feedback, I will make any changes in an edit and highlight how those changes affected the overall rankings of all guys in the top-10 (+ or - from original position).
     
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    Howard should be in the top 10 imo...**** team in front of him and still putting up good numbers.

    Otherwise good list for the most part...might as well add a top 10 rookies list too for fun.
     
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    Larkin deserved an honorable mention. What he's doing night and night out with nothing surrounding him is Incredible. I hate being that Homer fan but the kid is ruining our tank.
     
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    Fleury should be top 5. Where would L.V. rank without him. Marner top 5 as well. Toronto would not be in a playoff position without him. Otherwise a really good list for all 3 position. Cheers.
     
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    Fleury should be top 3 for Goalies
     
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    NoName Bringer of Playoffs!

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    Howard has put up solid numbers with a weak team and that is why I have him as an honorable mention. Can you tell me, which of the top-10 I have listed do you think should come out to open a spot for him and why?
     
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    He has played a ton of games (38, which is the most in the NHL) and that really helps his case, but the .912 sv% does hurt him. It would be hard to justify putting him ahead of Gibson, Andersen or Rinne who all have also played 30+ games and have significantly higher save percentages. I could definitely be underrating him a bit at 10th though given just the sheer amount of games he eats.
     
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    Not bad. I’d definitely have Jones in the top10 Defensman though. Kids a monster
     
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    His volume of work does offset his less than stellar save percentage. I am not sure about top-5 (who out of Gibson, Rinne, Andersen, Bishop and Vasilevskiy would you move out to make room for him?), but I am coming around to thinking I may be underrating him at 10.
    First off to be upfront, I am a Leafs fan as well as a Jets fan so I am trying to avoid homerism here as much as I can (was so uncomfortable with putting Rielly at 1, and I can absolutely see the arguments for Giordano or Burns or Hedman), but as much as I love Marner, I just can't put him ahead of Kucherov or Rantenen (who are putting up video-game scoring numbers), Gaudreau who is also on pace for nearly 120 points and Ovechkin who is leading the NHL in goals with 30 (on pace for a whopping 61). If I may ask, who would you move out of those four guys to make room for Marner?

    NOTE: I lumped LW and RW together for this because the positions as a whole looked like they had less depth then centre or defense. If this were top-5 RW, then I would have Marner higher right now.
     
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    NoName Bringer of Playoffs!

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    Jones was one of my final cuts, so it was hard to leave him out, particularly given he has been solid recently. He has slid under the radar a bit I think because he has missed some games, but he is indeed putting up a solid season when he has played. Who would you say he should replace on the top-10 list, because for him to move in someone else has to move out?
     
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    No Tavares for center eh? I respect it
     
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    Wouldn’t have expected Skinner to be there but can’t deny it.
     
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    I have him at 9th. His stats are solid, no doubt and he has adapted well in his new role, but there are a lot of centers putting up great seasons who are ahead of him.
     
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    Tavares >>>> Monahan
     
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    It’s close but maybe Buff. They have similar amount of points but Jones is pkaying 26min a night. That’s insane.
     
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    Goals do get weighted a bit more heavily then assists, so Skinner makes my cut, by a very narrow margin. Time will tell if he manages to hold on to that position. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the guys on the honorable mentions list passes him before the year is out.
     
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    Dubnyk out of the top 10 is too premature considering how he has been, one the the most consistent goalies during the last 4-5 seasons and that despite his recent struggles, he is still putting some pretty decent numbers.
     
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    Well, he is 9th whereas Monahan is an honorable mention.

    Remember, this is over the first half of the season, not careers. Monahan is putting up some great numbers this season; 52 points in 43 games would easily get a guy into the top-10 in any other season. Tavares gets the edge due to goal-scoring (and his track record suggests that his pace may be more sustainable), but it isn't a gaping chasm between the two right now.
     
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    This top-10 is for performance this season only. Track record may tell us something about whether a player's current play is sustainable however. Who would you suggest I should move out to make room for him in the top-10?

    I am trying to avoid falling into just tossing together this list based on name-brand, but I will admit, the perception of goalie does indeed suffer more of a "what have you done for me lately?" position then any of the skating position though which can make ranking them a bit tough and certainly hurts Dubnyk here.
     
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    I'd put Pastrnak ahead of Marner by a hair, but pretty good list.
     
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    If this list is based on performance for this season alone then I would actually agree with Dubnyk's current ranking.
     
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    I'd have Jones over Josi, personally. Better relative corsi/fenwick, similar point production/game, and 2 less blocked shots, more hits, and more takeaways in 8 fewer games.
     
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    I agree it is close. Buff gets the edge on offense (four more points in two less games) and physicality, but Jones does have an advantage in being able to be a big-minute work-horse on that blue line (3rd among blue-liners). I will take a look at both their advanced stats and then reconsider it.
    Not having watched many Predators games, I admit, I do tend to give Josi the benefit of the doubt due to anchoring that elite Nashville blue-line while putting up respectable offensive numbers this season, but I may indeed want to compare his (and other defensemen) advance stats more thoroughly when I have the time.

    Full disclosure is that blue-liners are probably the position I feel least confident ranking this season.
     
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    There is a gaping chasm between the two, that's my point.
     
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    Care to clarify why you believe that? Because just looking at their stats it doesn't seem to be the case.
     

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