Speculation: Top 10 Leafs scoring leaders for 2019-2020 - #5

[Leafs1993]

It's that time of year again where we can speculate who will lead our team in points for the 2019-2020 season. I will do a poll for the next 10 days or so to determine who Leafs HF thinks will be our scoring leaders. This is also assuming Mitch Marner resigns and there are no significant roster changes.

Nylander takes the #4 spot based on your votes. Last year Willy had 7 goals, 20 assists for 27 points in 54 games. My guess is he scores 80-85 points over 82 games this season.

1. Auston Matthew (58.2% 124 votes)
2. Mitch Marner (63.5% 73 votes)
3. John Tavares (86.0% 49 votes)
4. William Nylander (73.2% 101 votes)
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My choice for #5 is Morgan Rielly quite easily. Rielly will be on our first power play unit again after a career year. I believe Rielly will achieve 70-75 points.​

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[Lauro]

Morgan Rielly

 

[Nineteen67]

Other, Nylander

 

[MattySnipes]

Morgan Rielly

Such an annoying mistake. Along with Mathews

 

[Leafs1993]

Morgan Rielly

Thought it looked weird.
I do this from my cell phone and it autocorrects it that way.
Thanks, I'll edit it now for the grammatically sensitive ones. @MattySnipes @Lauro

 

[MyBudJT]

This is where it gets interesting IMO. I think Barrie edges out Rielly. Both really close.

1) Marner 30G 99P
2) Matthews: 48G 95P
3) Tavares: 42G 92P
4) Nylander: 25G 65P
5) Barrie: 16G 63P
6) Rielly: 14G 61P
7) Kapanen: 22G 52P
8) Kerfoot: 14G 45P
9) Mikheyev: 18G 43P
10) Muzzin: 12G 42P

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Barrie; I think the pp is just aching for a capable right shot threat (with apologies to Mitch) and Barrie ends up with roughly 70 pts

 

[Duffman955]

Barries time to shine.

I think Rielly regresses a bit offensively

 

[Leafs1993]

My top 10 for 2019-2020:

1. Auston Matthews 95-100 points
2. Mitch Marner 90-95 points
3. William Nylander 80-85 points
4. John Tavares 80-85 points
5. Morgan Rielly 70-75 points
6. Tyson Barrie 60-65 points
7. Kasperi Kapanen 55-60 points
8. Andreas Johnsson 50-55 points
9. Travis Dermott 40-45 points
10. Alex Kerfoot 40-45 points

 

[RantanenRavin]

It's that time of year again where we can speculate who will lead our team in points for the 2019-2020 season. I will do a poll for the next 10 days or so to determine who Leafs HF thinks will be our scoring leaders. This is also assuming Mitch Marner resigns and there are no significant roster changes.

Nylander takes the #4 spot based on your votes. Last year Willy had 7 goals, 20 assists for 27 points in 54 games. My guess is he scores 80-85 points over 82 games this season.

1. Auston Matthew (58.2% 124 votes)
2. Mitch Marner (63.5% 73 votes)
3. John Tavares (86.0% 49 votes)
4. William Nylander (73.2% 101 votes)
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My choice for #5 is Morgan Rielly quite easily. Rielly will be on our first power play unit again after a career year. I believe Rielly will achieve 70-75 points.​

I think barrie might get a good look at pp1, freeing Morgan up for the PK

 

[Leafs1993]

I think barrie might get a good look at pp1, freeing Morgan up for the PK

I thinks its gonna be Muzzin/Ceci on the PK and Barrie will be on the second power play. Rielly has earned his first power play spot IMO

 

[Nylander88]

I thinks its gonna be Muzzin/Ceci on the PK and Barrie will be on the second power play. Rielly has earned his first power play spot IMO

I agree. I don't think coming off a career year, being the longest serving Leaf now, and assistant captain..that they make him feel slighted by knocking him to the second unit. They either have Rielly and Barrie on the first unit together, or it's Rielly's job to lose

 

[SprDaVE]

I agree. I don't think coming off a career year, being the longest serving Leaf now, and assistant captain..that they make him feel slighted by knocking him to the second unit. They either have Rielly and Barrie on the first unit together, or it's Rielly's job to lose

I think it'll be a "whoever wasn't on the ice and exhausted when the penalty was called" kind of thing for the most part. Barrie is a lot more dangerous on the PP though, so it's likely going to be his main thing.

With that said, Rielly will be counted on the PK a lot more than Barrie, so I think his dip in production might just be in terms of his overall role. It won't be a slight to him if he's not getting first dibs on the PP. Rielly will very likely be a 20+ TOI/GP defenseman next season, whereas Barrie will likely be around 18 TOI/GP or so.

 

[Nylander88]

I think it'll be a "whoever wasn't on the ice and exhausted when the penalty was called" kind of thing for the most part. Barrie is a lot more dangerous on the PP though, so it's likely going to be his main thing.

With that said, Rielly will be counted on the PK a lot more than Barrie, so I think his dip in production might just be in terms of his overall role. It won't be a slight to him if he's not getting first dibs on the PP. Rielly will very likely be a 20+ TOI/GP defenseman next season, whereas Barrie will likely be around 18 TOI/GP or so.

I wouldn't be shocked at all to see Babcock go back to more of a 1A, 1B PP like we saw before this year. Which would definitely mean whoever isn't tired is out

 

[ToDavid]

It will come down to who gets the PP1 time between Rielly and Barrie. As much as I would hate to take it away from Rielly I think Barrie's right shot makes way more sense with Marner as the primary puck distributor. Giving Marner an option to go to Barrie for a quick one-timer at the top of the slot would be great.

I could also see a 1A/1B system with Marner, Tavares, Barrie on one and Matthews, Nylander, and Rielly on the other. In that case it's probably a toss up.

 

[Leafs1993]

It will come down to who gets the PP1 time between Rielly and Barrie. As much as I would hate to take it away from Rielly I think Barrie's right shot makes way more sense with Marner as the primary puck distributor. Giving Marner an option to go to Barrie for a quick one-timer at the top of the slot would be great.

I could also see a 1A/1B system with Marner, Tavares, Barrie on one and Matthews, Nylander, and Rielly on the other. In that case it's probably a toss up.

I'd say a 1A / 1B system is the most likely. Our PP was so predictable. When Mitch had the puck you just knew he was going to try a cross crease pass to Matthews or down to Tavares who would deflect it to Kadri/Matthews.

So odd, considering we stacked our PP but distributed PP time relatively evenly between units.

 

[hockeynorth]

I see it as:

1. Matthews
2. Marner
3. Nylander (breakout year coming for him Imo)
4. Tavares
5. Barrie
6. Rielly
7. Johnsson
8. Kapanen
9. Kerfoot
10. Mikheyev

Now... if Bracco makes the team out of camp I see him at 8 or maybe even 7

Hyman would be close if not for missing time

 

[Leafs1993]

I see it as:

1. Matthews
2. Marner
3. Nylander (breakout year coming for him Imo)
4. Tavares
5. Barrie
6. Rielly
7. Johnsson
8. Kapanen
9. Kerfoot
10. Mikheyev

Now... if Bracco makes the team out of camp I see him at 8 or maybe even 7

Hyman would be close if not for missing time

How many points do you see Nylander getting this year? My guess is 80-85

 

[phillipmike]

This is where it gets interesting IMO. I think Barrie edges out Rielly. Both really close.

1) Marner 30G 99P
2) Matthews: 48G 95P
3) Tavares: 42G 92P
4) Nylander: 25G 65P
5) Barrie: 16G 63P
6) Rielly: 14G 61P
7) Kapanen: 22G 52P
8) Kerfoot: 14G 45P
9) Mikheyev: 18G 43P
10) Muzzin: 12G 42P

Johnsson had 43 points in 73 games with just under 14 minutes of ice time. Think he finishes with less this season?

 

[MyBudJT]

Johnsson had 43 points in 73 games with just under 14 minutes of ice time. Think he finishes with less this season?

I’m not even convinced that he’ll finish the season with us...

It’s a prediction... it’ll probably be wrong... But if you look at my list last year, I was pretty accurate!

 

[Randy Randerson]

I’m not even convinced that he’ll finish the season with us...

It’s a prediction... it’ll probably be wrong... But if you look at my list last year, I was pretty accurate!

the Leafs just got him signed to a 4 year deal at an AAV that's a little less than the comparable players signing after him are getting on 2 and 3 year deals, and his underlying numbers are the kind that would point towards him being way better than his box scores indicate. He's probably our next value contract like Kadri, already underpaid a bit and will likely get more so as the season progresses. I would be surprised if he finishes with less than 50 pts if he plays 80+ games, won't be at all surprised with an Arvidsson-like stat line at the end of the year

I voted for him as #5 because Rielly's coming back to earth due to a deflation in unsustainable shooting and OIsh %'s and he and Barrie will cannibalize eachother's PP time

 

[MyBudJT]

the Leafs just got him signed to a 4 year deal at an AAV that's a little less than the comparable players signing after him are getting on 2 and 3 year deals, and his underlying numbers are the kind that would point towards him being way better than his box scores indicate. He's probably our next value contract like Kadri, already underpaid a bit and will likely get more so as the season progresses. I would be surprised if he finishes with less than 50 pts if he plays 80+ games, won't be at all surprised with an Arvidsson-like stat line at the end of the year

I voted for him as #5 because Rielly's coming back to earth due to a deflation in unsustainable shooting and OIsh %'s and he and Barrie will cannibalize eachother's PP time

How you described Johnsson sounds like the perfect trade chip to me!

 

[Leafs1993]

How you described Johnsson sounds like the perfect trade chip to me!

We need more left wingers that are NHL quality before we should think of getting rid of Johnsson.

 

[MyBudJT]

We need more left wingers that are NHL quality before we should think of getting rid of Johnsson.

What if Moore shows he can be the next Johnsson and Mikheyev shows he is actually better than Johnsson!?!

 

[Randy Randerson]

How you described Johnsson sounds like the perfect trade chip to me!

Why though? We're already a little thin at LW, he's very cap efficient and is a very good bet to break out as the organizations best LW by a long shot, and our young core is just entering it's prime so the next 4 years when he's signed are really important ones in our compete window. If someone gets silly and wants to give us Pastrnak for a package around him then sure, but I don't see the point in jettisoning him otherwise and it would be really out of character for Dubas to commit to a guy then sell him out the back door