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Jets are more likely to pursue Barrie.
DeAngelo is likely worth at most 2nd + 3rd, with the horrendous playoffs maybe even less.
Value of: Tony DeAngelo
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Jets are more likely to pursue Barrie.
DeAngelo is likely worth at most 2nd + 3rd, with the horrendous playoffs maybe even less.
disagree, and hope to post separate thread package over next 2 days or so.
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JoemAvs
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Tyson Barrie will be an UFA who IMO is a better version of DeAngelo.
Sure age difference matters but Barrie probably won't get the pay day he would have loved anyways so thats certainly a better play than spending big on DeAngelo only to also have to pay him..
Same goes for a lesser extent for Vatanen and even Shattenkirk..
Honestly pure OFDs right now IMO don't hold the value they had because a team only can ice so many of these before it becomes a detriment and right now almost every team has guys like that either on their roster or their system...
With a flat cap I don't think these guys are as enticing right now because points get you paid in this league and their point total always outweighs their real value to their teams which makes them a bad investment in a world where capspace is at a premium.
Sure age difference matters but Barrie probably won't get the pay day he would have loved anyways so thats certainly a better play than spending big on DeAngelo only to also have to pay him..
Same goes for a lesser extent for Vatanen and even Shattenkirk..
Honestly pure OFDs right now IMO don't hold the value they had because a team only can ice so many of these before it becomes a detriment and right now almost every team has guys like that either on their roster or their system...
With a flat cap I don't think these guys are as enticing right now because points get you paid in this league and their point total always outweighs their real value to their teams which makes them a bad investment in a world where capspace is at a premium.
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He would probably return something like 8th to 12th overall + a young NHLer who is already capable of playing 3rd line minutes but doesn’t have too lime upside. obviously depends on the teams in that range and their desire to add Tony D, but that’s about what Id approximate it.
If you’re looking to add a minute munching all around captain material DMan, Tony D ain’t it. In fact, he may be the farthest guy in the league from that. But that doesn’t negate the fact that he is amongst the most valuable guys in the league offensively and in transition.
If you’re looking to add a minute munching all around captain material DMan, Tony D ain’t it. In fact, he may be the farthest guy in the league from that. But that doesn’t negate the fact that he is amongst the most valuable guys in the league offensively and in transition.
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DeAngelo was on the ice for all 4 goals in the pivotal game, -6 overall in 3 games. Staal was on the ice for half the goals in the final game, -4 overall. So easy to blame someone else, but DeAngelo is the reason the NYR went home. He is garbage and so over-rated.
Lmao if deangelo was so valuable, Rangers should probably find a way to keep him.
He is not that valuable
So valuable he had more points than your entire team
Schultz is another stop-gap solution for those few teams in the market for that type of defender. If Byfuglien decides to play, he'll surely garner interest. Dumba may be available via trade again, too. Carolina will most likely trade Hamilton if extension talks don't go well. Montreal could do the same with Petry.
Even if he's not viewed as a long-term fit, the Rangers would be wise to hang on to him for at least another year in lieu of trading him into the deepest RD market and what has the potential to be deepest market for any position in recent memory.
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He had 53pts in 68gp, his previous high was 30.
Tyson Barrie had a season of 57pts in 68gp, with previous seasons of 52pts and 49pts. And he followed the 57 one up with a 59pts campaign. That’s called a track record, something DeAngelo doesn’t have, which limits his value.
Anyone looking for an offensive RD will just sign Barrie.
Ok, lets be a little more specific.
He had more points than any player on your entire roster.
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Rangers have plenty of offense from the back end. Could trade him for a defensive D or a shutdown 2/3C with +s to even it out. Would really benefit their team makeup.
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Graves never got a chance here and Pionk played here when then team was a complete dumpster fire at the start of a rebuild.
Trouba also early in a rebuild, 1st year in a new system.
I don’t get how anyone can make a proper judgement when context is actually factored in.
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He is a one trick pony. No one wants a defenseman that can’t play defense.
Played with a bad hamstring in the playoffs. Makes no sense to move him if you are the Rangers because Lundkvist is staying one more year in Sweden. Keep telling Rangers fans I see him moving to wing soon. JD wants the team to get bigger and tougher. he likes big defenseman. Fox, Lundkvist and DeAngelo are 5'11. Two out of 6 you can live with. Not three or more. All of them are righties along with Trouba. Something has to give. Either a move to wing for TDA or a trade. Don't see at this point how the Rangers will want more first rounders. They have 2 this year. I would think they would deal him in a package for a 2nd line center. Strome won't do.
Yeah they are terrible but I am not the one who is asking for top 10 picks plus for our bad defenseman
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Okay, makes sense. And what do you think the hole in your logic is? I'll give you a hint: there are 31 teams in the NHL.
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Tawnos
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Why would this be your response and not the fact that DeAngelo was injured. Anyone posting him getting walked in the last game is an idiot. Personally, I think he should've sat, but that's just me.
Anyway, I think the poster who mentioned the Hamilton trade from Boston to Calgary was spot on. DeAngelo is worth a mid-1st and two 2nds if you're going futures.
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No, as a regular on HFNYR, in my opinion Rangers fans by and large just don't know how to evaluate defensemen and haven't been able to since they booed Harry Howell. Pionk is more or less the same player he was with the Rangers with a year more experience. Skjei is essentially the same player he was for the Rangers, but is now slotted for the right role. Trouba didn't really have a down year, his role just changed.
Graves is a different story. He's a player whose progress had totally stagnated in the Rangers organization. The Avs coaching group broke his game down completely and rebuilt it from scratch.
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Hes arbitration eligiblle whose point production is tied to PP1 time who is a liability on defense.
he s some teams should be cared about trading for give the price rangers would ask. Hed be a goof OS type costing just a 2nd if Rangers dont match.
with the ED in a year, the only teams willing to trade for him would be if he is an upgrade on their top 3 Dmen where they trade back the Dman hed replace affecting the return of a 1st. t
the only teams looking would be teams that would fit him into their ED plams easily.
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