Value of: Tony DeAngelo

Pia8988

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ok no + for byram….

surprised there is not more demand even at a good price given injuries to D at this pt

ELCs are king. While DeAngelo is having a great year. He is also in position to get paid. Don’t see a team giving the Rangers a highly drafted D for the privilege to pay him.
 

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ok no + for byram….

surprised there is not more demand even at a good price given injuries to D at this pt

There will likely be interest for him this offseason, just not likely the value Ranger fans are hoping for. Whether he gets traded or not will be seen.
 

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What is the value of a one-dimensional offensive dman? That's a tough one to be honest. These types of players are dangerous. Their point totals will suggest high dollar contracts but their overall contribution when taking in consideration their defensive liabilities is far less. Ghostibere is probably a good comparible.

I tend to stay away from one-dimensional offensive dmen as there is high risk of overpaying in trade and in contract dollars.

You tend to stay away?
 
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cwede

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Kapanen + Dermott for ADA
not enough and the NYR return wont necessarily target a guy to take ADA's minutes

NYR need ELC or pre-ELC (low Cap hit, not Seattle vulnerable) high-upside forwards, like TML's Russians playing Junior
not saying they'll get it,
but Dermott isn't on NYR wish list
 
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ELCs are king. While DeAngelo is having a great year. He is also in position to get paid. Don’t see a team giving the Rangers a highly drafted D for the privilege to pay him.

agree elcs are king esp w/upcoming exp drft

however, the objective is to win and that requires quality players

I don't think anyone will overpay but a deal in the Dumba ballpark is commensurate, and if it is long term escalating there, it can be around 4m the 1st yr which is totally reasonable.

to be clear, I was not suggesting Byram - Dea straight up 1:1.
I was saying Dea would be a build acquisition for Avs and NY would add something significant but reasonable.

However, I expect Colorado to just keep slow and steady as she goes now.
 

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No argument, just noting any team acquiring now gets his production now, which should be of interest to some.

Some yes,,,,,,,but that would only benefit cup contenders, likely most of the suitors will be non playoff teams. IMO
 

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I have a feeling if he's traded it's to a team like Anaheim, they could use a player like him but the thing is the Rangers do not want center players, or prospects. I think focusing the trade around a player like Kase would work. They were willing to give up Kase for a guy like Faulk earlier but it didn't end up working out. I think Kase+2nd+prospect would be a good fair deal. DeAngelo is really f***ing good and criminally underrated on this board, he's an offensive specialist but isn't as bad defensively as people like to advertise on here. I trust him in a lot of situations as a Rangers fan.
 

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What DeAngelo gets is correlated with what his contract demands are. The more reasonable the ask the higher the return. One has to wonder, though, if ADA's ask is reasonable why would the Rangers trade him.
 

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I have a feeling if he's traded it's to a team like Anaheim, they could use a player like him but the thing is the Rangers do not want center players, or prospects. I think focusing the trade around a player like Kase would work. They were willing to give up Kase for a guy like Faulk earlier but it didn't end up working out. I think Kase+2nd+prospect would be a good fair deal. DeAngelo is really ****ing good and criminally underrated on this board, he's an offensive specialist but isn't as bad defensively as people like to advertise on here. I trust him in a lot of situations as a Rangers fan.

I agree Tony D. is really under rated. A perfect example is Sunday against the Bruins. I think they missed him on the power play which Sunday looked horrible. They also could have used his gritty type game Sunday. He is a player that puts up points, juices a power play, sticks up for teammates, and is reportedly a good locker room guy.

No way I would trade him unless given an offer that you can't refuse. The more you see him play the more you appreciate his play.

There are players in the league that are highly regarded by the pros but under appreciated by us fans because we don't see them often enough. A perfect example for me is N. McKinnon. I see all the pros love his game but I haven't seen enough of his games to appreciate the ratings. We just don't see enough of him, and others on western teams.
 
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I agree Tony D. is really under rated. A perfect example is Sunday against the Bruins. I think they missed him on the power play which Sunday looked horrible. They also could have used his gritty type game Sunday. He is a player that puts up points, juices a power play, sticks up for teammates, and is reportedly a good locker room guy.

No way I would trade him unless given an offer that you can't refuse. The more you see him play the more you appreciate his play.

There are players in the league that are highly regarded by the pros but under appreciated by us fans because we don't see them often enough. A perfect example for me is N. McKinnon. I see all the pros love his game but I haven't seen enough of his games to appreciate the ratings. We just don't see enough of him, and others on western teams.
Without a doubt I agree 100%. I just feel like we're gonna end up trading either him or someone like Skjei for some good pieces or one really solid forward. We have so much depth at D we should try and get another secondary scoring forward. It just has to be the right price and the right team
 

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You labeled him as a one dimensional player. Your opinion on him is clearly wrong and nobody should take you seriously considering you don’t watch him play much.

And NYR fans don’t want to trade him.

You’re going to need a larger shovel with all the digging you’re doing here.
I also agree he is 1 dimensional I would never put him on a PK. Personally.
 

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DeAngelo

For

Kase
Comtois

?

That is way too much coming from Anaheim. Kase potentially given they tried to trade him for Faulk maybe add a mid pick, but adding Comtois is way too much. Especially given he's an ELC player and expansion exempt.


Also: ADA wanting to get paid and BM's notorious cheapness with RFA's seems like a disaster waiting to happen - plus they don't have a protection slot for him
 

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