Value of: Tony DeAngelo

Discussion in 'Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk' started by AirGut, Feb 14, 2020 at 11:12 AM.

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    Please just stop. You clearly have no idea what your talking about.

    ....and FYI, DeAngelo was not low balled, NYR too priority was to get Panarin and could not offer ADA much more than what he got.

    NYR are big on DeAngelo and he will get paid, deservedly so. He has been very good this season.
     
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    You clearly haven’t since you suggested he’s one-dimensional, which he’s clearly not. But keep pushing this agenda you’re on if it helps you sleep at night.
     
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    He wasn't lowballed? Then you say he is was paid less because they shelled out for Panarin? Jesus, what's wrong with you?
     
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    He's poor defensively and very good offensively. Does that work for you? :)
     
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    NYR not bringing in a supposed "#1D" for ADA, not while Skjei and Staal are on the roster
    they need young talent that wont dent the Cap
    and their near-term LHD pipeline is deep (Rykov/Hajek/Reaunanen/Miller/Roberston,...)

    a top 6 talent F, 23 or younger, or similar recently drafted prospect, and high-ish pick(s)

    I'd be fine to if instead they kept ADA and if/when needed, play him on left-side, he has done that before

    but if he demands >$5M per, he may force NYR into tough decisions
     
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    How old was Dougie when he was traded? 21? Dougie definitely accomplished more than ADA at their respective ages so not sure how you’re saying ADA > Hamilton. Personally I hope you guys re-sign him so we don’t have to see ADA threads everyday.
     
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    He was a RFA with no arbitration rights. He wasn’t lowballed.

    But since you feel he’s a defensive liability, why should the Rangers have given him more money? Derp?
     
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    He got paid far less than he deserved. He held out because of the lowball then gave up. He was lowballed.

    That's exactly the issue - he'll get paid because of the points he puts up. Offensive dmen get disproportionately paid compared to traditional two-way dmen or defensive dmen. And that kills. He will also remember how he was treated in the offseason during his holdout. He gave in. Now the NYR will pay.
     
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    top 6 winger
     
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    DeAngelo's best defensive trait is his great recovery speed, he's an excellent skater. He's been paired with Marc Staal most of the season so he has to clean up a lot of messes.

    He's less sound defensively than Fox and his stick isn't as good. But he's dynamic offensively, great passer and although his shot is weak he's scoring a lot of goals this season, mostly when he pushes in closer to the net to finish off plays.
     
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    y'know, they didn't 'snub him' and he knows it,
    this is a hard Cap league, and last off-season NYR didn't have the wiggle room to offer ADA (or Lemieux) more,
    they played by the CBA, now ADA has more ammo: his strong season and his arbitration rights

    both side have rights under the CBA and try to use them smartly
    ultimately/eventually good players have more of the leverage
     
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    Again, since this question went over your head. He was a RFA that wasn’t arbitration eligible. How was he lowballed?

    If the Rangers gave him an extra Mil, do you think he would have asked for less because of that with his new contract?:laugh:
     
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    Why did he hold out then? Obviously he felt lowballed and he was right. If the NYR game him an extra million, he wouldn't have held out and would have been suitably paid.

    I mean, the dude held out in the offseason. You think he did it because he was happy? What is wrong with you?
     
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    No, we think he did it because he wanted more money, money that at the time, the Rangers didn't have available to give him. And now, SURPRISE, they'll have more money to give him this offseason b/c they're not going out and spending 20 mil of their offseason money on 2 players. This isn't rocket science bud.
     
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    Not looking for futures in Deangelo trade, would much prefer a 1 for 1 hockey trade for a young top 6 forward in similar contract situation
     
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    For some, it could be.
     
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    Why is that? He produced well last season too.
    His defensive play is getting better. He is an RFA.
    I'd pay 5M for 5 years....I think a lot of teams would actually.
    He isn't going from making 1M this season to 8M.
     
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    Hope you’re right
     
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    I dont think tony signs 5x5. He would force arbitration and do a deal to bring him to ufa.
     
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    Zero clue...... Good thing you tend to stay away from the "one-dimensional offensive dmen"
     
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    My opinion would be to trade Skjei,Staal if possible and try one of Trouba, Fox ADA, Lundvfist on the Left side.
     
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    You know, had they asked for him in the Fox deal, at the time it might have happened.
     
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    As a Jets fan I wouldn't suggest this...
     
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    This is DeAngelo's first season hitting 40 points, so why would you suggest that he's worth more than Hamilton? I see nothing that makes DeAngelo more valuable than Hamilton was at the time of his trade. Personally, I would've and still would take Hamilton well before DeAngelo.


     
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