Tomas Tatar 7 points in 5 games

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  1. koyvoo

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    ...more points in 5 games in Montreal than he had in 20 games played for Vegas.
     
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    Yeah people were crazy to write him off so quickly. Just didn't fit Vegas at the time. They had their engine running already, no wonder he was kinda lost. Now it's a new start in a team without high expectations.
     
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    He was recovering from shoulder surgery and was bound to bounce back after last season. Even in Detroit he was being heavily carried by Larkin. Glad to see him off to a nice start
     
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    probably a lock for 55-65pts. Career year for Tatar?
     
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    To be fair. Tatar is playing top minutes with the habs
    15,17,17,19,21 minutes

    With LVK, he played once 18 minutes (12-18 min). It was tougher for him to adapt.


    I'm really happy with the acquisition of Tatar
     
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    Makes sense. The 2018-19 Habs are obviously a much better team than the 2017-18 Habs.

    I bet they don't lose in the finals like Vegas did, pfft.
     
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    Tatar has been terrific, but I think most of us are expecting him to level off. The irony is that he was seen as a bonus in a trade whose key piece was prospect Nick Suzuki.
     
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    Could you imagine if Tatar alone ends up being a more valuable asset than is Pacioretty?
     
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    Sure, but I imagine a lot of things that will never happen in real life. Unless Pacioretty develops a physical problem he'll almost certainly get back to his usual 30+ goal pace.
     
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    Horrific trade by McPhee. He overpaid badly for Tatar and then sold low on him.
     
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    Outscoring Patches :P
     
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    I thought he was a super-genius for putting together that all-star Vegas cast?
     
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    As an aside, glad to see vegas getting back to the real world
     
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    The house always wins.
     
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    He paid a fair price for Tartar, but sold him too low and too quickly. I know McPhee wanted a veteran personality to replace Neal, but moving Tartar pre-season was foolish. He should have given it at least 10 games to see if a clean slate (and bill of health) would allow TT to make an impact.

    Bringing talent in at the deadline and then sitting them does not allow for a proper assessment on their value. Since they specifically got him because he was under contract for 3 years, treating him like a UFA and then moving him before the season started makes it look like McPhee lacks confidence and is impulsive and second-guessing himself.

    Tartar is streaky and Patches always starts slow, so in a couple months the tables may be turned - either way its a safe bet that TT will still get his customary 20+ goals (at least) and then even if Patches gets his 30+ it's still going to make McPhee look silly for giving up so much for just ~10 goals.
     
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    This thread has...

    ...a terrible title.
     
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    I really like him. He's fast, shifty, really good puck handler, isn't afraid of crashing the net...

    The only thing Pacioretty has on him is his release, which, granted, is one of the best in the league. But Patches can really bring his linemates down consistently handling the puck like a hot potato.

    Bergevin did very well on this deal. Gotta give him that.

    We've seen better goalscorers than Pacioretty fall off a cliff in their early 30s and I don't see Pacioretty as a guaranteed 30+ goalscorer, long-term wise.

    He used to be a very strong skater, but he doesn't have that separation speed anymore. And for a player that relies a lot on generating chances off the rush, he won't be able to take advantage of those situations as much going forward.

    I had been advocating to trade him over the last three years partly because of that, but the bigger issue was his contract. McPhee didn't go overboard with the term, which is good, but I don't know if Patches will be able to live up to a 7M price tag going forward.
     
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    more points than Max Pacioretty.

    I'm disappointed people aren't taking advantage of this title.
     
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    been a pleasant surprise so far. Let's say his S% drops to 12 (actually 16,7), he'd still be on pace for a 35 goals. Not at all what I was expecting from him (and to be frank, I still don't expect that). But hey, he's taking advantage of the big minutes he gets for sure.
     
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    As a VGK fan, it is tough to see, especially with our struggles out of the gate. But I am glad for Tatar. He seemed like a great guy who handled his reduced role here very professionally.
     
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    Not surprised he's doing well in Montreal. They need somebody to score and Tatar seems to be one of those 'big scorer on bad team' type of player. I could see him hitting 60 points.
     
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    Always been a fan of Patches but I prefer Tatar lol Patches is a complementary winger on his line that need 2 hard worker to give him the puck. Tatar gets the puck and make plays
     
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    I think I was one of the few people on the main trade board who was saying Tomas Tatar isn't a throw in or a cap match; that he's part of the deal and they're picking up a decent player.

    It's funny, because I don't remember a lot of people agreeing with the post lol.
     
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    It's too bad he wasn't available when Colorado needed him most. 48 points.
     

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