Player Discussion Tom Wilson - Part 2

[Calicaps]

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[Holtbyisms]

Any guy with rumours in his name is probably not reliable.

I could live with 6x4.5m but it's not ideal.

Ideally I just want to see a 2x3.5 deal. If Wilson proves he's worth it we'll pay him. Wilson's actual value to this team is too obscured to know if a long term high AAV deal is going to be worth it.

Not sure who runs this account but they were pretty legit throughout the entire UFA period including Caps stuff.

I'd be pretty happy with 4.5 x 6. Hopefully Wilson's team is too. I mean just take a look at some of the other 4.5-ish a year players in the NHL next year... It would make Wilson around the 200th highest paid player in the leauge. He's certainly in the top 200 most valuable players in the leauge due to all the things he brings to the table.

 

[usiel]

Hey Tom Wilson is like bro douche cool! Screw all this stats stuff!

 

[g00n]

Hey Tom Wilson is like bro *****e cool! Screw all this stats stuff!

Weren't his fancy stats good last year?

The complaint his critics have is he isn't a 20+ goal scorer on the top line. That's not his only job, and for those other things there's nobody better in the league.

Plus, again, he's not on the PP. How many top line players in the league are scoring more even strength goals than Tom Wilson with same or less PP time? Very few if any. Point being TW's job on that line was not to rack up goals and assists like a typical scoring winger that's also a PP guy, but not much else. His job was to make things easier for Kuzy and Ovie. Still, Kuzy only had like 6 more ESG than Wilson on that same line. What's he making?

 

[Ridley Simon]

6/27 would be terrific. I’ve stated in here repeatedly that I want long term, and I wouldnt bat an eye at 5m/yr.

Would be really nice to get it done, and see where we stand. Fill out the roster with little intrigue.

 

[VaCaps Fan]

Agreed, Ridley get a Tom Wilson jersey for the collection?

 

[Roshi]

Just wheeled in a freshly new kitten to our family. Fierce little thing. Named him Tom Wilson obviously.

So im hoping both tom wilsons are long-term attachments.

Yeah, thats all for today.

 

[Ridley Simon]

Agreed, Ridley get a Tom Wilson jersey for the collection?

Certainly. A replica home red. I’m looking for an upgrade.

(On another note, just bought a 1981 Milan Novy Jersey....#66....never knew the Caps had a 66)

 

[KWPower]

I would absolutely love a 7x6 deal for Wilson. He does so much for the team and the cap is going to be way higher by the team the deal is up. Buys his prime years for a very reasonable price.

 

[Corby78]

I would absolutely love a 7x6 deal for Wilson. He does so much for the team and the cap is going to be way higher by the team the deal is up. Buys his prime years for a very reasonable price.

That’s too rich for me. While he was a big part of this year, it was one year. A 7x6 has too great a risk of turning into an anchor contract. Could Wilson continue to improve? Sure but he has a way to go to be worth 6 imo

 

[KWPower]

That’s too rich for me. While he was a big part of this year, it was one year. A 7x6 has too great a risk of turning into an anchor contract. Could Wilson continue to improve? Sure but he has a way to go to be worth 6 imo

If he were to sign for cheaper that would be awesome, but buying those years won't come cheap and I imagine that's what he'd be asking for. Everything he does for the team on and off the ice makes him worth it to me even if it's expensive. This is based off the thought that the cap will continue to rise a lot by the time the contract is over.

 

[VaCaps Fan]

Well thought out points from everyone, Wilson is hot commodity for Washington!

 

[Corby78]

If he were to sign for cheaper that would be awesome, but buying those years won't come cheap and I imagine that's what he'd be asking for. Everything he does for the team on and off the ice makes him worth it to me even if it's expensive. This is based off the thought that the cap will continue to rise a lot by the time the contract is over.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m a fan of galdi’s “Today’s overpay is tomorrow’s deal” mentality when it comes to the cap. But there is still a limit to that. Wilson still has some “unknowns “ in his game so there is some more risk involved

 

[artilector]

I would absolutely love a 7x6 deal for Wilson. He does so much for the team and the cap is going to be way higher by the team the deal is up. Buys his prime years for a very reasonable price.

Heh, if Wilson gets a 7x6 contract offer from the Caps, he and his agent need to lock themselves in a room for a week looking for the fine print under a microscope, specifically for terms like "first-born child", "immortal soul", etc.

 

[Calicaps]

Heh, if Wilson gets a 7x6 contract offer from the Caps, he and his agent need to lock themselves in a room for a week looking for the fine print under a microscope, specifically for terms like "first-born child", "immortal soul", etc.

 

[stanleycaps18]

Certainly. A replica home red. I’m looking for an upgrade.

(On another note, just bought a 1981 Milan Novy Jersey....#66....never knew the Caps had a 66)

He scored one of the most unlikely knuckleball goals from mid ice, I think against the Devils.

 

[Johannes de Silentio]

Anyone have a guess on when we might finally hear something has been hashed out between the two sides?

 

[hockeykicker]

Anyone have a guess on when we might finally hear something has been hashed out between the two sides?

i dont think either side is in a rush. right now if i had to guess, they stuck on years. wilson wants to cash in sooner

 

[Johannes de Silentio]

i dont think either side is in a rush. right now if i had to guess, they stuck on years. wilson wants to cash in sooner

So how long could it realistically drag on if they're not in a hurry but both generally committed to getting a deal done? I'll admit this is probably the closest I've followed the offseason as a fan given that I usually exit the playoffs with such a bad taste in my mouth.

 

[hockeykicker]

So how long could it realistically drag on if they're not in a hurry but both generally committed to getting a deal done? I'll admit this is probably the closest I've followed the offseason as a fan given that I usually exit the playoffs with such a bad taste in my mouth.

Well you also have to remember that since he didnt file for arbitration, another team can offer him a contract too. Caps can match that so he playing his cards

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

If he were to sign for cheaper that would be awesome, but buying those years won't come cheap and I imagine that's what he'd be asking for. Everything he does for the team on and off the ice makes him worth it to me even if it's expensive. This is based off the thought that the cap will continue to rise a lot by the time the contract is over.

That's an insane price in a world where Kuznetsov's $7.8M contract was deemed high at the time it was signed.

 

[895]

Short term prove it contract (2x3.5) or a long term security contract (8x4.5).

Something like 6x5 would be the worst option imo.

 

[VaCaps Fan]

Wilson is primed for a good team friendly deal...

 

[maacoshark]

Short term prove it contract (2x3.5) or a long term security contract (8x4.5).

Something like 6x5 would be the worst option imo.

I'm thinking Wilson wants a short term deal. A long term deal could hurt him at the end of the deal if he continues to develope.

 

[sapperdaddy]

I'm thinking Wilson wants a short term deal. A long term deal could hurt him at the end of the deal if he continues to develope.

I'm thinking long term, especially since I believe he's the prime candidate for wearing the C once the changing of the guard happens, and I think the org is grooming him for it.