Discussion in 'National Hockey League Talk' started by Chairman Maouth, Oct 1, 2018.
I think the problem with this discussion is that many here never played a physical sport like hockey and football.
Blindside hits are readily available on nearly every play in football and every shift in hockey. For those who claim "keep your head up", you haven't played.
The reason there aren't more of these hits is that most reasonable people understand the danger you are putting your opponent in and simply choose avoiding the contact. But every once in a while, a player comes along that doesn't play by humane rules. In a pick up game, Wilson most likely would be attacked by the opposing team for delivering this type of hit (I have even seen own teammates go after players for this type of behavior).
It's a sucker punch, delivered with a shoulder rather than a fist. What I'm really surprised by is that no victim of Wilson or Cooke ever went after them with even a dirtier play. I had this type of hit delivered to me once and I snapped emotionally and tried to decapitate my opponent with a vicious cross check to the back of his neck. The way I looked at it, he could have killed me, I'm returning the objective.
He should be allowed to play in the game devoted to the cup raising banner. Ban him for a game or 2 after that one
He's way past that.
Sundqvist should have been allowed to play too. He’s not though.
No. Do not want him headshotting Pastrnak.
Go ahead and do the expected thing. 8-10 games, then he comes back and does it again, 10-15 games, then he comes back and gets his 30.
I don’t know why they don’t just cut to the chase. We all know how the story ends.
if there's one thing the league should do to show they're serious about punishing headshots, it would be making a special exception for Wilson
I respectfully disagree. Suspension is suspension and should begin the next game after the decision.
@Habby Gilmore So what exactly is your point? His head is up, he's aware of what's going on. He's attempting a SOG. He's not crouched. He's probably aware that he's about to get crunched out of the corner of his eye. What exactly did he do wrong here? He's not in a compromising position. He's doing everything right. It's on the guy doing the hitting to do so in a legal manner. Sundqvist isn't exposing himself to a dangerous play by turning against the boards or something like that which people always moan about, he's making a hockey play and took a shoulder to the head after it. What is he supposed to do? Not make the play because he might get crunched or might be on the receiving end of a headshot? What do you want him to do?
What the hell? Why? And 2 games? Laughable.
It wasn't a legal hit, and he decided to make the illegal play over the more easily available legal one.
Just give Washington a compensatory pick at this point.
I’m sorry man but if he was aware he wouldn’t have go smoked like he did, no player is gonna take a hit that hard just to get off a shot from a low percentage area. Even if that hit had been delivered cleanly that kid was getting absolutely rocked. Cutting through the center is always a dangerous this to do, and right after a player takes a shot he’s very prone to get hit and generally looking in the direction of the shot he just took.
Where do you see I rationalize dirty hits? I just wanted to show you that numbers of incidents doesn't show how frequent they are. 4/100 headhits isnt same as 4/1000. Rate is important if we want to find out if intention is there or it's a simple misluck that has to occur because of high rate hitting.
They use per hour data which is not correct. If you compare per trip data, driving is much safer.
He took the risk to be hit legally. He didn't accept the risk of being clocked in the head because it's against the rules. The same way players don't accept the risk of someone taking off their skate and trying to stab them with it.
This false distraction routine is tiresome.
12 games minimum
Totally shoulder to shoulder.
Why would you compare accidents per trip? Accidents per mile or accidents per time unit make more sense.
I guess my point boils down to this, we can keep punishing these hits and continue to do so, but until players stop leaving themselves prone to hits like this they will just continue to happen.
That's not true at all. You see players take big hits all the time to get a pass or shot off. Not only that he's keeping the puck away from the defender who's attempting to engage him. You're placing all of the blame on the guy being hit and excusing the hitter of any and all responsibility because "it's his job to not put himself in that position." Which, again, he's done nothing to put himself in a vulnerable position except skate in a certain direction. Your argument is terrible.
Stop. Just stop.
If that was true all players in the league would receive multiple suspensions per year. So I guess your point boils down to nothing.
30 games let the PA appeal it to 15. Tell the guy one more and he's out.
Should get 8-12 games. Man, that guy is a real low life.
Only a lunatic would think a 3 minute 1 mile car ride is equivalent to a 2000 mile trip.
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