Tom Kuhnhackl?

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  1. BladeRunner66

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    Tom Kuhnhackl Career Stats

    SeasonTeamGPGAP+/-PIMPPGPPPSHGSHPGWGOTGSS%FO%
    2015-2016PIT4251015324002210529.60
    2016-2017PIT5741216818001200498.250
    2017-2018PIT69268-66010110633.216.67
    Career-1681128395480135201646.721.1

    The guy is regressing statswise, he's a RFA next season, do you let him go?

    I mean, i like him but he's going nowhere so maybe he should just go elsewhere?

    Would Sully let him go?
     
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    Seems to be the kind of guy you sign for less than 1m so you can put him on waivers/bury him in the A if we have better options. The Pens don't mind that kind of dead money if it isn't hurting the cap.

    He's a capable penalty killer on the 4th line that doesn't hurt you. As long as they don't blindly keep inserting him in games when there are better options, he should stick around. He has sat for long stretches so I don't see that as a problem.
     
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    Empoleon8771 Kunitz Was There

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    Kuhnhackl is fine, if you let him go, you'll immediately be looking for the same kind of player to fill a depth role. Kuhnhackl as a 13th forward is fine, he's not going to be making much more than he's making now.
     
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    JR talked about not liking the 4th line and wanting to get more scoring from the 4th line.

    I hope that means he realizes you can't have Kuhn on the 4th line.
     
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    You can. You just can't have 3 of him. We saw a great 4th line with him, Rust and Cullen. Even him with Fehr and Cullen were good in. I think if you play similar style player as Rust/Cullen with Kuhn then he'll be a solid contributor. I think he played well with Sheahan, unless I'm misremembering
     
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    You can but Matt Cullen’s are extremely rare and as well as Sheahan has played, he’s not the type of center that elevates the Kuhnhackls of the world.
     
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    I guess if you have 2 good players with him the line can work, but i just don't think Kuhn is a very good player.

    I look at Kuhn as a tweener between being a NHL player and a AHL player.

    Hes the type of player that you call up from WB when you have forward injuries, hes not the type of player that should be on your team on opening night IMO.
     
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    If that's the case, then it's incumbent on JR to bring in guys who add more than just PK ability. Get rid of options like Kuhn and Rowney, and replace them with guys who can PK but who can also contribute at 5 on 5.
     
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    Kuhnhackl is a good option for 13th forward you carry on the NHL roster. The issue is Sullivan loves him. If I knew he'd get 13th forward playing time I'd have no issue giving him league minimum on an NHL deal.
     
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    He does an excellent job mimicking the PA player announcements...I say get him a job doing those and then if there’s an emergency or injury, he can sub in...that way they’re not paying him to be the 13th forward and Sully won’t be able to play him...
     
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    Thing is you gotta also post his real stats like take aways, give aways, and blocked shots. That's what his bread and butter is. If you're posting points for a defensive defensemen, you're a fool. Same applies here.

    I have been critical of "Tom Kat" as well, but I think to illustrate a more complete picture, you need to post those numbers as well.

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    I think what works best is having someone like Aston-Reese, Sheahan, Rust as a third line, or Simon instead of ZAR or rotate both in and out. That solves that, I think Kuhnhackl is the odd man out, he's a good team mate and I get that the players like him, but it's a business. Get better or your gone.
     
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    I think he’s fine as a 13th or 14th forward.
     
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    Roussel please
     
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    Same. We need more depth so we don't have to lean on him and Rowney at the same time.

    You can have one of those players in the lineup but not two of them, and certainly not on the same line.
     
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    Sign me up for this one too. I'd even give the guy a 3yr deal at 2m/yr type of thing. Basically his current cap hit before he turned UFA.

    Roussel, Sheahan, Rust - That's some good balance.
     
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    1. **** Rowney.
    2. We have depth, even if we brought in Roussel, we still have ZAR and Simon as depth wingers that can be used.
    3. **** Rowney.
     
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    Yeah he knows the system and can play passable hockey if he's needed. He shouldn't be a regular though, certainly not after the deadline. We should look for some cheap 3rd line-ish depth that can PK to knock him and Rowney out of the regular 12. Whoever the next Jussi Jokinen is.
     
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    I'm not entirely sure, so maybe you could clarify. Would you be opposed to Rowney being re-signed and given a permanent spot at 4C?
     
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    Kuhn's solid but with Simon and Sprong no longer waiver-exempt he can't be an every day player. I don't know how Sully will handle that though.
     
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    Broken record, but he's fine as a 13th forward. Just can't have him and Rowney in the lineup on the same night.
     
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    I don't want Rowney back but in fairness to him he was solid in the playoffs last year and was part of a Cup team.

    If you're part of a cup winner you get a lifetime pass from me as long as you don't murder someone or something. Doesn't mean I want him back but I'll never be too harsh on him because of that :p.
     
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    He’s a decent plug, but he’s clearly getting worse the longer he plays. He was a genuinely good 4th line player in 2016.

    Better than Rowney though.
     
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    Believe it or not. He was one of our only consistent bottom six players in the playoffs. Almost ended game 6...hit the post.
     
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    Our 4th line should be 3 players that kill penalties really well and don't make a lot. We won two cups following that formula.

    Kuhn fits that bill.
     

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