Toews vs. Malkin

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Do Malkin and/or Toews belong on the Top 100 All-Time list? And if so, who belongs above who?

  1. Only Malkin Belongs on the prestigious List

    84.3%
  2. Only Toews Belongs on the prestigious List

    2.0%
  3. Both Malkin and Toews belong on the list, but Malkin is higher

    12.7%
  4. Both Malkin and Toews belong on the list, but Toews is higher

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Neither belong on the Top 100 All-Time player list

    1.0%
  1. jyabor91

    jyabor91 Registered User

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    I've been a lurker on HFBoards for years. After reading through the Malkin as the 3rd best player of this generation thread on main boards, I felt the need to create this poll. I am a life-long Rangers fan, but there is no way to deny the dominance of Crosby and Malkin throughout their careers. I have a feeling this poll will be lopsided, but lets see how it goes. Do either belong on the Top 100 All-Time list? And if so, who belongs above who?
     
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    Malkin was an egregious error, he's around top 30-40 all time. Toews would be on my top 500 players list but definitely not top 100.
     
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    I like Toews. Maybe not a top-100 player ever but Top-500 is a massive and ridiculous understatement.

    He was just as if not more important than Keith and Kane to the Blackhawks.
     
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    Wow.
     
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    Realistically Toews is a top 200 player at best and Malkin is a top 25-30 player at worst.
     
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    what's so wow about that

    he's right lol

    too many Malkin haters on this site
     
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    Malkin is top 50 imo. And could climb more before he retires. Toews idk, tough player to place imo.
     
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    Malkin... top 50.
    Toews... top 200.
     
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    Malkin absolutely should be on the list (though, I don't consider it a prestigious list by any means as in the voting options listed above). Toews, at best, is on the border. But with so many players that could/should crack the top 100, I'd have him on the outside looking in. They just happened to make the list at the same time the NHL was trying to shove Toews down our throats. Recency bias.
     
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    I wouldn't say Malkin is top 25-30 yet. I'd go with top 50 or so.
     
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    Is Bergeron a Top 100 player of all time? Kopitar? How about Rod Brind'Amour? Toews being named in the Top 100 was silly then, and it's looking even sillier now with his steep decline.

    Malkin is, and was, the right choice.
     
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    Malkin is ~50 all time. Toews is definitely not top 100.
     
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    Malkin is top 50ish, while Toews is probably top 200. But Toews isn't even the worst player on the list so I don't know why he's the one always criticized. Mike Gartner, Bob Gainey, and Joe Nieuwendyk have no business on that list either.
     
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    Toews isn't half the player Malkin is
     
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    Yea but he's Canadian.
     
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    Option 1. I like Toews but he's not top 100 all time.
     
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    That's fine, but I completely disagree.
     
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    Not even close, comrade.
     
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    I'd say only Malkin.
     
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    Which of the following is he better than?

    Gretzky
    Howe
    Lemieux
    Jagr
    Crosby
    Ovechkin
    Richard
    Beliveau
    Morenz
    Messier
    Esposito
    Clarke
    Mikita
    Trottier
    Lindsay
    Lafleur
    Sakic
    Yzerman
    Orr
    Lidstrom
    Bourque
    Potvin
    Harvey
    Shore
    Robinson
    Hasek
    Roy
    Glenn Hall
    Plante
    Sawchuk
     
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    Perhaps due to a combination of people not knowing their hockey history, recency bias and people not being able to translate across eras well enough ("oh, wow, Gartner has 700+ goals!").
     
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    Wait Niewendyk was on the list??? I knew Gartner was there and shouldn’t have been, and I don’t know enough about Gainey to comment.
     
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    Mean Gene Haters gonna hate

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    I’d go with Lindsey and Trottier.
     
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    Gainey was very good defensively, but his offense was abysmal for a supposed top 100 player. The dude never even scored 50 points in a season despite playing in the 1970s and 1980s.
     
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