Well it looks like the Ducks are done and the really need to start a rebuild. Have a done a good number of trades in the past and I think they would make great partners again. TML Johnsson Brown Zaitsev 2020 1st Ducks Manson Ritchie TML get the RHD they are looking for and some toughness on the LW. Ducks get a young feisty winger who does have arbitration rights but would be a great add to your top 6. On pace for 40-50 points as a rookie. Brown adds a little more scoring and can slot in your middle 6. Play PK, good motor. Zaitsev would be your 4 behind Montour. Playing with Lindholm would like be a huge plus for Zaitsev. Adding another 1st to the 2020 draft would help the rebuild.
Leafs get exactly what they need - Check Leafs give up only expendable pieces - Check A+ Leaf proposal.
Johnsson Zaitsev 2020 1st For Manson. Two roster players a first for a D man that is gonna get wasted over the next three years while you rebuild. All younger. Brown=Ritchie In fact you could say Brown has shown more upside while Ritchie has been a third liner.
Still a no-brainer for Toronto and not remotely enticing for Anaheim. You can spew whatever you want about the Ducks situation, you're not going to pry a highly coveted, cost controlled RHD like Manson without it hurting a lot more than what you seem to realize.
The Ducks should rebuild us and give us the pieces to fill our hole. Here are 2 roster players that do nothing for a rebuild. Thanks.
Kettle meet Black. Oilers fans in no position to ever criticize Leafs fans. 1st rounders and actually competent NHLers in a proposal is nothing to talk smack about. Thinking some GM would trade you for Lucic..... I’ll let you have that sink in for a good long while!
Man, am I glad the Flyers went on a run, mostly so we didn't have to suffer through awful proposals like this anymore.
Lol this cant be a serious attempt... without your 1st would be hard to imagine a trade for manson where kapanen or nylander arnt coming back... hell you dint even give us sandin
This proposal is an obvious attempt to dump salary, and try and get a top 1 defenseman in the process.
The 2020 first is the exact piece a rebuilding team is looking for. Hot commodity. Inalways enjoy when people double down on their one sided proposals to justify them
Kap + Johnson + Z + 1st/2nd 20(based on leafs making the ECF either year) + 2nd 19 for Manson + Kesler (retained 500K)
For all the this needs to be shut down, another TML proposal that is insane. Some tid bits for you all: Johnsson has more goals than anybody on the Ducks roster. Played like ass the first 10ish games too. Furthermore he has moved up and down the lineup and has proven he can play on any of the top 3 lines. Likely can be signed for relatively cheap and another 3 years of control. Both Zaitsev and Manson have comparable point totals the past three years. Is Manson the better defender no doubt but this is why Johnsson and the first is added. Brown has outscored Ritchie, gets zero PP time, always plays PK. It’s a wash but as said Brown likely has more offensive upside if given the opportunity. Close the thread, could care less but it’s a fair offer for both teams. One who is pushing towards a SC run and another that needs a rebuild.
Since you're being deliberately obtuse I'll spell it out. A rebuild doesn't happen by trading off your young proven players on good contracts- those are the ones you keep. You talk about adding to our top 6 but did not include any top 6 players in there Both Brown and Zaitzev are OLDER than the players they would be replacing Not only is Zaitzev a cap dump... you think he should play on the first pair with Lindholm? wtf Troll thread are bad. Please stop
Leafs giving up too much. Toronto would essentially be handing Ducks our best left winger and a 1st , plus a replacement rhd for Manson, and Brown for Ritchie. Brown is a better player than Ritchie in that he can be used in more situations up and down the lineup. Babcock would never play Ritchie, just like he never played Leivo.
Zaitsev is same age as Manson Brown is 25 Vs Ritchie at 23 Johnsson is 24 and yes he is a top 6 player If you read my original post it would be second pairing for Zaitsev behind Montour. My mistake if Lindholm is on your first pairing. Plus you are getting a first round pick that will likely be 18 or 19.