Time to fix the offside rule

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  1. Dr Black

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    NHL linesmen are the best in the world at what they do. As a result, a blatant miss rarely happens! This is why I'm so angry that the league would create this abomination of a rule in the first place. They have essentially killed a house fly with a cannon.
     
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    There is nothing wrong with the rule. The problem is the official not getting it right. To be honest I prefer no replay on offsides.
     
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    In way too many games, some beautiful goal is challenged, because someone maybe had a tip of a skate an inch on the wrong side of the ice half a minute ago, which can only be seen with a slow motion camera. Rules are rules, but when specifically the offside of all things get scrutinized as much as if a puck actually passes the goalline, something is wrong.

    Challenging for goaltender interference I can understand, but offside? It kills the momentum of the game and it's a ridiculous thing to be able to challenge for. How could they even come up with this stuff in the first place?

    If anyone actually in favour of keeping this weird offside challenge rule?
     
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    I am. An offside is a rule...same as the goal line, goalie interference, high sticking etc...if you are offside the play is dead. So yeah, if you score on the play it shouldn't count.
     
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    I get your point, but since it has been modified and an unsuccesful challenge results in a minor penalty, the number of challenges has been greatly reduced. I am okay with the way things are. It was terrible before that rule change.
     
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    I am. Brayden Point had a nice goal overturned last night because someone going onto the bench had a foot in the zone. It sucked but it was the right call. I wouldn’t want the goal to count if it happened to the Bolts

    Edit: in bold, changed from “it”
     
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    The problem I have with the offside challenge is it doesn’t add any goals only takes them away. For example you can’t challenge a play that was whistled down as offside that was actually on side. With goalie interference, high sticks etc it can be challenged both ways.
     
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    They should make the rule similar to when a puck goes in the net, and everyone misses it. Have someone call down and notify the refs that it was blantantly offside. This would hardly ever happen, as the refs almost always get the offside call right. This would eliminate the 'your toe was 3mm in the air, no goal' calls.
     
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    I haven't read through all 5 pages, maybe it has been said. My suggestion is the refs get one replay at live speed. If it's obvious, the call off the goal. If they need multiple angles and zooming in frame by frame, then it's a goal. One replay, one standard angle. Done
     
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    Offsides shouldn’t be reviewable. The only thing that should be are goals.
     
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    I was a big fan originally of instating the coaches' challenge for offside plays, after a few seriously blown calls (we all know the worst one).

    However, I was wrong. Since it has been implemented it has really done nothing good for the sport, ruins the flow of the game, and most frequently the challenges are for having your skate 1mm off the ice in a way that doesn't impact the scoring of the goal in any way.

    The few linesman errors a year are definitely preferable.
     
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    Please get rid of it. Adds absolutely nothing to the game. We accept subjectivity and human error in more or less every other rule, why the exception for something as meaningless as a couple mm. Worst rule in sports IMO
     
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    Never been a fan, alleged every GM llikes it and says it's working, so I don't expect it to go anywhere
     
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    I would keep the challenge but i would like to see the blueline extend upwards into infinity, like the goalline in football and as long as a player is over the line he is onside. This way goals don't get taken away because of a skate being an inch of the ice
     
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    I also think the challenge has caused linesman to blow the play dead prematurely on really close plays that weren't offside. Many plays could of resulted in goals but of course no way to know the result. If the play is real close at the blueline don't blow it dead and give the coach the ability to challenge it and get the call right.
     
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    Don't think many will agree man.
     
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    several in this thread agree with this or similar...
     
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    So, we can basically conclude, the offside challenge is an abomination that detracts the excitement for the game. It's a joke. If you can challenge offsides by inches, what else could you not challenge?
     
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    The goal isn't "stolen" the goal was scored by breaking a rule.
     
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    I don’t know the answer but I agree there’s a problem. I like the idea of a time limit or something like a statute of limitations from the time of the ‘infraction’.
    maybe any potential offside challenge is enforceable only until the defense gets a touch on the puck. So, if there’s an offside zone entry missed by the official, once the defense touches the puck or gets control the offense gets a clean slate.
    I do agree that basically it should be an eye call, in the spirit of the rule, which i assume is to stop goal-hanging. And not stop hockey.
     
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    Are you in favor of a challenge for an uncalled hooking penalty resulting in a goal? Because hooking is a rule too. If so, how far can you challenge? Last whistle? Should we be able to challenge icing to avoid an unwarrented defensive zone faceoff? Why should we apply some rules and not others?
     
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    No for the hooking, it is too much open to interpretation. A good example is goalie interference which no one understands. I hate that.

    Offside is black or white. You are or you aren’t.

    As for the icing, no, i don’t believe that should be challenged
     
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    I think they do a hell of a job, very seldom do they get the call wrong. when they do its usually a 5 min review and its so close... please people try being in their place we don't want to get the call wrong
     
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    Well as much as black and white that it can be for offsides, i think that it's often inconclusive. I'm sure if we could have replays for penalties, it's 95% of the time black and white as well. Any way what I don't like is the purpose of offsides reviews is to get the call right, but they don't have the technology to make sure it works. And they don't want/try to get other things right. Its either important to get it right or it's not.
     
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    Lets take out the goal line too, then any time it feels like it should be a goal we can just give the team a goal.
     

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