No, and that's not what I was referring to..
That's dramatic hyperbole. Along with terms like "travesty" and "strife." Oh you poor victim, being oppressed by the mainstreamers! Plenty of the "conformists" you rail against make criticisms of DK all of the time.
You're suggesting that being critical of DK is some sort of cardinal sin around here.. it's not. You just encounter blowback with your Krejci criticisms because you look at him the same way Don Cherry looks at Russian players. You call out other posters' bias as if you are an impartial voice of reason. You're not, nobody is. We all have players we're partial to, yours is TS. Mine is Jordan Caron.
The fact that we're a page and a half in to this argument, on what was a relatively harmless post that both stated Krejci has been playing terrific hockey this year but he still has the ability to occasionally drive me insane with a bonehead play kinda goes to show it wasn't dramatic hyperbole, am I right?
As for players I'm partial too, there are a good many more then just Tyler Seguin. Kessel, Bergeron, Lucic, Thomas, Rask most of the current Bruins roster, Caron included... although I'm not nearly as sold on Spooner as others are (but I try not to say that too loudly too often as he appears to be on the Krejci fast track to Bruin Board stardom).
Nobody is saying that Krejci automatically became a #1C/elite player solely based on those two performances! My point is that you'd be chirping everyone on here if a 27 year old TS accomplished that feat in Dallas. And you would!
I'm not going to debate something as foolish as your assertion here, when all one needs to do is read through the last page to see how wrong it is.... and again regarding Seguin, no I wouldn't. He's already lead this team in points, the same team that had a healthy Krejci on it, and proved to be one of it's more effective players but I'd hardly consider him elite. Not sure how many different ways that needs to be said, but hopin' two is enough. His game has a long way to go, as do all 21 year old players not named Sid Crosby or Evgeni Malkin.
And I stated that I have a more liberal definition of elite than you, so we don't have to shift the goalposts to make this a debate exclusively over whether or not he is elite.. I doubt we see the day that he becomes elite by your definition.
My issue is with you referring to him as a "serviceable #1 center" in a crow-eating thread where people are supposed to admit when they were wrong about a player. It's quite petty. Everyone else is playing along nicely, come in say "I was wrong about.." and have a nice giggle. But you come in to update us on how you almost were
going to admit being wrong, but not just yet...
Maybe it's me, but I just think it's a bit stubborn. But I'll leave you alone (to end such a "travesty" as you put it), and give you the last word (so make it count
, I know you will).
Sorry, I didn't realize this thread was such serious business. I saw posts like this:
I hope I'm wrong on Soderberg, who I don't think is going to meet his LF hype.
and never realized we had to meet such a strict stringent optimistic criteria. Logic dictates that it had more to do with the focus of the content, not the presentation). I'd say I'll try not to be such a big meany in my posts from now on and play along nicely as well (which I can only assume means not saying anything bad about David Krejci even when justified) but we both know that isn't going to happen.
And shame on you for doubting him meeting my standard of elite as a possibility. He's shown he can do it, demand more of him instead of settling for a guy who is only elite when he feels like it and he just may.
As for the meaning of elite, using the "moving the goal posts" saying on your part is ironic. Doing so seems to be the standard of people who want to redefine the term to make a player bias passable. The very fact that you say you have a "liberal" definition of the term illustrates this nicely, as by definition being liberal with it makes it completely irrelevant. The Elite are a small group within the larger, when you expand that it becomes the norm.
While I appreciate the go ahead on the last word, your permission to it is about as relevant as your apparent application of the term elite.
). When Tony asked "who would you want out of the available coaches?" Wiggy said "Mike Keenan." I nearly swerved off the road. 
